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Old 01-11-2015 | 04:03 PM
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Had to kick off a non-rev LAX-EWR two days ago on the 757-300. They wanted to kick off 5, but Capt. talked to load planning. Enroute limited...?
Also, check the blended rates for the 756/737/Airbus, they ARE NOT the same (contrary to popular belief)....
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Old 01-11-2015 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
Had to kick off a non-rev LAX-EWR two days ago on the 757-300. They wanted to kick off 5, but Capt. talked to load planning. Enroute limited...?
Also, check the blended rates for the 756/737/Airbus, they ARE NOT the same (contrary to popular belief)....
756 Cap $213
Guppy Cap $204
Bus Cap $202

12th year rates. FO rates are proportionate. Except 1st year FO all pay the same $66
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Old 01-11-2015 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by intrepidcv11
Actually based on the last UAL contract, the Airbus guys are now getting Guppy pay. Thanks flamer.
Contract 2000 DOS, Airbus CA max longevity - 232.59
Current CBA/2017, Airbus CA max A320/321 max longevity- 224.05

C2000 Airbus FO max - 158.86
Current/2017 FO max - 153.03

AGAIN, ^^^^^^^ DOS C2000, not what the max was had the contract gone full term, 2003 or 2004, can't remember. In which case;

Airbus CA - 253.99
Airbus FO - 173.48

Sad that C2000 DOS rates are STILL higher than current CBA amendable date rates. 17ish year gap between the two, never mind inflation

Thunder Guppy trash would have to slum it at 226.58 and 154.75. Not sure how those poor guys were gonna afford multiple wives on that.
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Old 01-11-2015 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by AV82SKI
Just for clarification CAL took delivery of the first 900ER in 2008. The MAX and the NEO were not an option back in 2008. Lcal took delivery of 12 900's and 56 900ER's before the Lual 900ER's started arriving. The Lual order occurred in 2012 and just continued on with the 900ER deliveries and included the MAX order.
Sorry you are correct! I was referring to the 150 airplanes we ordered to replace the LUAL 757's. Sorry, should have been more clear!
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Old 01-11-2015 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pilot64golfer
756 Cap $213
Guppy Cap $204
Bus Cap $202

12th year rates. FO rates are proportionate. Except 1st year FO all pay the same $66
I think that's last year's pay. Should be up 3% now
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Old 01-12-2015 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
Easy pal. It was a joke. I don't think anyone would argue that any 737 is less capable on a transcon vs. any RJ
I saw it for what it was, somebody joking "I could kick Tyson's a**." I responded in kind the way his buddy might say "you haven't been in a fight since that girl kicked your a** in the third grade." Just a little back and forth, not meant to be literal.

Having said that, I've got a lot of time on the 73ER and the problems posted here are way overblown. A couple of years ago I was non-reving on an Airbus from EWR to SFO. Open seat next to me, no worries, when they pull me and some others for a weight issue. Early October winds and CAVU on both ends, so extra fuel wasn't an issue. The Captain did a great job negotiating with dispatch and getting us back on, but I was left wondering WTH, that doesn't happen to any 737.

I've got well over a decade on the 73 and unfortunately will have close to two, if not more, before I'm off it. I've flown and wrenched on other airliners and have no love for the Guppy or need to defend it, I just know the realities of operating it. I believe the pilots here who have flown both the Bus and the Guppy who say the Bus is the better plane from a pilot's perspective. I don't doubt the 321 Neo performs better than the 739 Max. However, we're buying 73s for a reason. Sorry if you feel I'm ranting at you, it was just a convenient place to make my point.
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Old 01-12-2015 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JoePatroni
That wasn't a weight restriction necessarily, those seats were more than likely purchased by the freight forwarding companies for the express purpose of leaving them empty to accommodate more freight underneath. I've been going to HKG for ten years and I've never seen that many empty seats.
Seems like semantics to me, but I honestly didn't get HKG very often because I was pretty junior. You've obviously got more experience and currency than me. Having said that, I do remember taxiing above MGTOW every departure out of there. I think aircraft limit weights have been raised since I left the plane, as well.
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Old 01-12-2015 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by gettinbumped
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The 321neo, is losing cargo space in order to place an additional fuel tank...not sure how you can call that a 757 replacement.

The fact is that there is no aircraft out there that did the mission the 757 did as well as it did during its time.

Boeing is looking into a replacement but just said that no replacement would be available until 2025!!!

United has put its bet on the 737, therefore the 737-900ER and Max series will be the aircraft that will fill the 757 gap, do it in a more cost efficient manner and work better within the network of United until a true 757 replacement comes out...

Sorry Boeing haters but you better get ready to use a yoke instead of little toy sticks!!
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Old 01-12-2015 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by XHooker
I saw it for what it was, somebody joking "I could kick Tyson's a**." I responded in kind the way his buddy might say "you haven't been in a fight since that girl kicked your a** in the third grade." Just a little back and forth, not meant to be literal.
http://youtu.be/ChfIyHZqEd8
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Old 01-12-2015 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Kilder
The 321neo, is losing cargo space in order to place an additional fuel tank...not sure how you can call that a 757 replacement.

The fact is that there is no aircraft out there that did the mission the 757 did as well as it did during its time.

Boeing is looking into a replacement but just said that no replacement would be available until 2025!!!

United has put its bet on the 737, therefore the 737-900ER and Max series will be the aircraft that will fill the 757 gap, do it in a more cost efficient manner and work better within the network of United until a true 757 replacement comes out...

Sorry Boeing haters but you better get ready to use a yoke instead of little toy sticks!!
For the record, the 757 is my favorite airplane. I would LOVE to keep them all and retire on the thing when the time comes. But when it comes to the A321NEO vs 737-9MAX, the 321NEO wins in almost every category. The fact that the MAX doesn't even have the GTF is surprising, which in my opinion is the primary reason for embracing the new generation of planes. The 321NEOLR offers MORE range than the 757-200 does now, and although it eats some cargo space, many times our 757-200's can't complete the Europe USA missions anyway. Boeing doesn't have an answer to this plane, which would fit our narrowbody TATL flying better than anything out there. I'm not at all sure we won't buy some in the future. I'm on the Guppy now. It's fine, but the sales numbers for the 9MAX vs the 321NEO tell the story of which is a "better" plane.

In the end, just pay me right and I'll fly whatever we buy.
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