Is this a history lesson about airline deregulation and scabbing or is this a thread about the recent bid?

http://www3.alpa.org/publications/Fl...The_Line_1.pdf

http://www3.alpa.org/publications/Fl...he_Line_II.pdf

Use to be able to get the books by calling or writing ALPA but you'll likely get referred to the online version now days.

I wouldn't turn down a job at AA or DL waiting on United. It is about the money. Both airlines had a history and some employee pride in their respective airline. Today the combined airlines has no real identity and most employees put in their time, collect their paycheck and go home. I think Jeff Smisek would be proud with the mess his implementation of the merger has created.

Good thing is the pay is good and you can walk away from the job and not worry about it til the next trip. Good Luck!

No the flight deck isn't anything like this. Been here a short while now and I love every minute of it. It is truly a great place to work. It's good to know the history. It will serve you well when talking to legacy pilots from both sides. Nod your head and smile and sympathize with them. Many have gone through hell and back in their careers. I pray I never do. In the end most of them are excited to see new guys and will tell you as much. Don't let this web board discourage you at all. Like I said it is a wonderful place to be right now.

Yes.................

I hope they are not. As for me, as the PIC I don't even ask or try to figure out which legacy I'm flying with. We eventually talk about backgrounds and if I hear a LUAL or LCAL aircraft I engage that info as an aircraft flown, not what company it was flown for. It's a safety of flight issue to me. We're there to operate a piece of equipment from here to there. Some things are distractions to that. That's my choice. But as Colonel Nathan R Jessup said, I have that privilege.

ALPA's history is written by - ALPA. You really need to read it with a grain of salt, or maybe a bucket of salt. ALPA at UAL is currently run by the 570, so add that into the bucket of salt.

As an analogy, if I wrote my own autobiography, I would be the Most Interesting Man in the World, World's Best Lover, Savior of the World, and Slayer of Staller.

Technically only 6 of the 63.

As it should be and most likely will be for the remainder of your time at United but then you already knew that.

That's where I am at as well. I don't have to fly with Scabs, as PIC, so that isn't an issue. Everyone else is from somewhere. It's like saying "you are from Kentucky." That's cool. So what.

Don't wish to offend, but wanted to know since it's ok to go off topic.....

I do have a question though as not a former L UAL person (former CAL). Is it (was it) the policy of UAL to hire their former in-terms with little to no experience? Just asking.... Does the in-ternship give you that much more leverage in the hiring process? Any difference between the hiring standards in the 90's for in-terns and today? I have flown with both sharp and not so sharp former interns and all I can really determine is just a lack of a breadth and depth of experience. Was this like the lawsuits that made UAL hire more women/minorities without the experience of their white-male competitors?

Don't know about that.