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11-11-2017 | 06:05 PM
#541
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What the company got was "labor stability." There were changes in leadership that needed to be made and they didn't have the focus, time, or ability to juggle simultaneous complex negotiations with multiple work groups. That is a very plausible explanation and it is correct.
11-11-2017 | 06:28 PM
#542
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I’m in the mindset if FRMS gets us more flying with United painted on the side and not codeshared out like Delta does a lot of, then that equals a lot of high paying widebody jobs, hopefully more widebody aircraft and a larger seniority list which pretty much guarantees pay raises for a lot of the list.
Company could have just as easily said they don’t want it for xxx dollars and figured out a way to code share the segments.
Company could have just as easily said they don’t want it for xxx dollars and figured out a way to code share the segments.
Leverage with FRMS? I don't get it. It benefits the company, and us. We are pulling on the same end of the rope. Why on god's green earth would we want to make it difficult to fly ultra long haul.
Same guys complaining we code share away to ANA and Lufthansa.
11-11-2017 | 06:50 PM
#543
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It was worth a 25% pay raise.....That’s a lot for a small issue. And yes the had to pay us anyway or we would vote no pretty simple. No brainer amigo
I’m sure the company would give us 30% + to give up scope maybe 50% to give up 100 seats. Can we count on your yes vote?
I’m sure the company would give us 30% + to give up scope maybe 50% to give up 100 seats. Can we count on your yes vote?
11-11-2017 | 09:44 PM
#544
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I’m in the mindset if FRMS gets us more flying with United painted on the side and not codeshared out like Delta does a lot of, then that equals a lot of high paying widebody jobs, hopefully more widebody aircraft and a larger seniority list which pretty much guarantees pay raises for a lot of the list.
Company could have just as easily said they don’t want it for xxx dollars and figured out a way to code share the segments.
Company could have just as easily said they don’t want it for xxx dollars and figured out a way to code share the segments.
Not just more flying, but more ultra long haul flying.
Leverage with FRMS? I don't get it. It benefits the company, and us. We are pulling on the same end of the rope. Why on god's green earth would we want to make it difficult to fly ultra long haul.
Same guys complaining we code share away to ANA and Lufthansa.
Leverage with FRMS? I don't get it. It benefits the company, and us. We are pulling on the same end of the rope. Why on god's green earth would we want to make it difficult to fly ultra long haul.
Same guys complaining we code share away to ANA and Lufthansa.
12-03-2017 | 11:28 AM
#545
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Bored, bored, bored....
CA I'm flying with said we only have three of the Chinese Airbii on the line as they are proving very expensive to reconfigure. Said we weren't getting more. Any truth to this Bus guys? I believe it might be expensive/difficult but I would be surprised to find that we aren't getting all of our announced aircraft.
Of course, the additional used Airbii rumor has been hanging out there some time now. Perhaps it has fallen through or we've had second thoughts?
CA I'm flying with said we only have three of the Chinese Airbii on the line as they are proving very expensive to reconfigure. Said we weren't getting more. Any truth to this Bus guys? I believe it might be expensive/difficult but I would be surprised to find that we aren't getting all of our announced aircraft.
Of course, the additional used Airbii rumor has been hanging out there some time now. Perhaps it has fallen through or we've had second thoughts?
12-03-2017 | 11:35 AM
#546
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Bored, bored, bored....
CA I'm flying with said we only have three of the Chinese Airbii on the line as they are proving very expensive to reconfigure. Said we weren't getting more. Any truth to this Bus guys? I believe it might be expensive/difficult but I would be surprised to find that we aren't getting all of our announced aircraft.
Of course, the additional used Airbii rumor has been hanging out there some time now. Perhaps it has fallen through or we've had second thoughts?
CA I'm flying with said we only have three of the Chinese Airbii on the line as they are proving very expensive to reconfigure. Said we weren't getting more. Any truth to this Bus guys? I believe it might be expensive/difficult but I would be surprised to find that we aren't getting all of our announced aircraft.
Of course, the additional used Airbii rumor has been hanging out there some time now. Perhaps it has fallen through or we've had second thoughts?
12-03-2017 | 11:56 AM
#547
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From: 787
Bored, bored, bored....
CA I'm flying with said we only have three of the Chinese Airbii on the line as they are proving very expensive to reconfigure. Said we weren't getting more. Any truth to this Bus guys? I believe it might be expensive/difficult but I would be surprised to find that we aren't getting all of our announced aircraft.
Of course, the additional used Airbii rumor has been hanging out there some time now. Perhaps it has fallen through or we've had second thoughts?
CA I'm flying with said we only have three of the Chinese Airbii on the line as they are proving very expensive to reconfigure. Said we weren't getting more. Any truth to this Bus guys? I believe it might be expensive/difficult but I would be surprised to find that we aren't getting all of our announced aircraft.
Of course, the additional used Airbii rumor has been hanging out there some time now. Perhaps it has fallen through or we've had second thoughts?
3 319s in mod (the newest one we took delivery of on friday 12/1)
2 320s in mod
These planes are leased I doubt United is spending very much money other than labor to get these planes up and running.
12-03-2017 | 12:57 PM
#548
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The interiors are completely reconfigugured to match the United brand. New seats, bulkheads, side panels etc.
12-03-2017 | 01:39 PM
#549
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From: 787
The cost of the interiors is a fixed cost that is already known, not something that would surprise United and cause a second guessing of an aircraft purchase/lease.
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