ChalupaBatman

Dude, that was funny! Sadly though, I think you're correct. Its really too bad that the A330 NEO couldn't (won't) be selected to replace the 767s (and some 757s doing the Europe flying). I guess these days if it ain't Boeing then we ain't going.

spaaks

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...opment-456472/

United encourages Boeing to speed up NMA development

08 MARCH, 2019 SOURCE: FLIGHT DASHBOARD BY: EDWARD RUSSELL WASHINGTON DC
United Airlines chief executive Oscar Munoz wants Boeing to speed up the development of its proposed New Mid-market Airplane.

"Dennis [Muilenburg, chief executive of Boeing] and I talk about this all the time – speed up the process, we're growing, we need aircraft and they make great aircraft," Munoz told reporters on the sidelines of the US Chamber of Commerce Aviation summit on 7 March. "Having it in a little bit shorter timeframe would be helpful."

Under the current timeline, Boeing plans to make a decision on launching the NMA programme in 2020 with an entry-into-service in 2025.


Delta Air Lines chief executive Ed Bastian also encouraged the Chicago-based airframer to move forward with the programme earlier this week. Speaking at an investor conference, he said the carrier is "very interested" in the NMA and hopeful that Boeing will launch it soon.

Both Delta and United are in search of a replacement for the majority of their Boeing 757 and 767 fleets. The former operates 204 757s and 767s, and the latter 131 aircraft, Cirium's Fleets Analyzer shows.

Chicago-based United is in search of a replacement for its long-haul 757-200s – models used on short-haul flights are slated for replacement by Boeing 737 Max 10s – as well as its Boeing 767 fleet over the next decade.

The airline is considering a variety of aircraft in addition to the NMA, including additional Boeing 787s as well as the Airbus A321LR and A330neo programme.

Under Boeing's current timeline, both United's 757 and 767 fleets will have an average age of more than 26 years by 2025, Fleets Analyzer data shows. Airlines consider the average useful life of an aircraft to be 25-30 years.

Munoz is mum on what United wants in the NMA, saying only that it will be a combination of fleet replacement and opening new markets. The airline has used the 787, Boeing's last cleansheet aircraft, to open numerous new markets, including nonstop flights to Singapore from the US mainland and service to the interior Chinese city of Chengdu.

"We want them to launch the right product," he says. "A lot of us have had a lot of input and conversation into what that might look like."

Boeing has said the widebody NMA will seat 200-270 passengers with a range of 4,000-5,000nm (7,400-9,300km).

Air Lease chief executive Steven Udvar-Hazy said on 6 March that the airframer is likely to offer two NMA models to meet the different carrier requirements.

"Some of the Asian airlines are less interested in range and more interested in a higher capacity version, delivering the most optimal economic performance," he said. "Ultimately, I think it's driving towards two different models. Boeing will have to address which comes first."

ChalupaBatman

Oscar must be one hell of a poker player if he can say that we are looking at the A330NEO with a straight face. With Kirby’s continuing statements about him getting scope relief out of us, I could see him and Oscar cleaning house in a Texas Hold em’ tournament.


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spaaks

Clearly united made a mistake not getting in the order book line for the 320/321 neo or the c series/A220. It will be interesting to see if that bungle actually ends up working out for them. Vis a vis possibly being able to take over delivery positions at a discount from all these international ULCC's and others having trouble recently. And/or buying up their lightly used neo's, 787's...etc.

spaaks

Good time to buy United, keep that powder dry

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...-idUSKCN1QW2XT

spaaks

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usato...ory/3296950002

WOW that was fast. See what I did there . Bidding war over lightly used airbii to come. Less Atlantic competition should be good for the ‘ol profit sharing check gents

ChalupaBatman

First off, good riddance to those clowns. Secondly, our guys won’t be going after any of their old jets unless they can get them for a song. As we saw with the Monarch and Air Berlin fleets, those jets got gobbled up by carriers willing to pay more than 2 schillings for a jet.

I’d love to be proved wrong. Those purple busses would be a welcome addition to our fleet.


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Aquaticus

Norwegians 78's have the wrong motors and the wow 321-neo's are still dealing with teething pains. We would need more than a handful of them to justify the added complexity. The 320's would be fun tho.

SUX4U

756 fleet says hold my beer...

MaxQ

Probably bad Karma to hope the loss of "other" peoples jobs will provide themselves a small benefit.
Not a hard slam on you...just a gentle reminder that no one in this business is immune from it happening to themselves.