Commuting as a UPS pilot
08-01-2022, 05:19 PM
#141
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Joined APC: Mar 2022
Posts: 30
Originally Posted by kronan
There are NO guarantees that FedEx will hire you. And for FedEx, it's High SSN's that choose first. So a perfect SSN would end in 9999 and be the most Senior Person on that particular newhire date.
As a FedEx guy, domestic only, I'm at roughly 2M miles earned DH'ing over a 20 year career. I was very fortunate to be hired as a DC10 Engineer at a time when Reserves weren't being used much and the over 60 Memphis guys bid Reserve and avoided Pax land so for the vast majority of my career I've held DDH's and been paid to get to work. But I've also stayed "Junior" relative to what I could hold. IOW-stayed an engineer, stayed an FO, chose the NB Captain (and occasional layovers at home) rather than chasing $$.
Seniority is a hell of a drug.
And for those at FedEx chasing $$, the money's great, but when you're Junior....many of those folks are only being awarded the remnants of Vacation|Training|Other conflicted trips\reserve days...what we call Secondary Lines and that lack of control of your destiny can suck huge.
As a Cargo guy, every time I cruise the Civilian side of the airport I'm so happy United passed me by and I wound up at FedEx (Not least of which is I would've been furloughed twice)
So, UPS or FedEx is like winning the lottery. Either would be a great career. If you're closer to a UPS hub, the QOL of living in domicile is huge and should be at least part of your consideration. Driving to PHL might be easier than Jumpseating anywhere.
As a FedEx guy, domestic only, I'm at roughly 2M miles earned DH'ing over a 20 year career. I was very fortunate to be hired as a DC10 Engineer at a time when Reserves weren't being used much and the over 60 Memphis guys bid Reserve and avoided Pax land so for the vast majority of my career I've held DDH's and been paid to get to work. But I've also stayed "Junior" relative to what I could hold. IOW-stayed an engineer, stayed an FO, chose the NB Captain (and occasional layovers at home) rather than chasing $$.
Seniority is a hell of a drug.
And for those at FedEx chasing $$, the money's great, but when you're Junior....many of those folks are only being awarded the remnants of Vacation|Training|Other conflicted trips\reserve days...what we call Secondary Lines and that lack of control of your destiny can suck huge.
As a Cargo guy, every time I cruise the Civilian side of the airport I'm so happy United passed me by and I wound up at FedEx (Not least of which is I would've been furloughed twice)
So, UPS or FedEx is like winning the lottery. Either would be a great career. If you're closer to a UPS hub, the QOL of living in domicile is huge and should be at least part of your consideration. Driving to PHL might be easier than Jumpseating anywhere.
08-02-2022, 05:12 PM
#142
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Posts: 926
Originally Posted by Aire
Anyone here have experience commuting to SDF from PNS or other Gulf Coast airports? Curious to how difficult/easy it can be? Looks like UPS flies PNS-ABY-SDF and SDF-PNS on Tu-F; anybody have experience jump-seating these?
Also, anyone use the Allegiant flight from VPS-SDF that runs Su, Th & Sa?
It all seems strait forward but wanted to hear it from someone who's done it a few times. TIA!
Also, anyone use the Allegiant flight from VPS-SDF that runs Su, Th & Sa?
It all seems strait forward but wanted to hear it from someone who's done it a few times. TIA!
The jumpseat on Allegiant is about as close to a sure thing that you’ll find on a PAX airline. The flight deck jumpseat is rarely occupied and if it is, OAL pilot jumpseaters are permitted to ride on a spare cabin jumpseat.
Last edited by sqwkvfr; 08-02-2022 at 05:37 PM.
08-03-2022, 06:24 AM
#143
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2022
Posts: 14
Originally Posted by sqwkvfr
I can speak to the Allegiant portion of your question. Several people use it, unfortunately it goes away October 30th until next spring/summer.
The jumpseat on Allegiant is about as close to a sure thing that you’ll find on a PAX airline. The flight deck jumpseat is rarely occupied and if it is, OAL pilot jumpseaters are permitted to ride on a spare cabin jumpseat.
The jumpseat on Allegiant is about as close to a sure thing that you’ll find on a PAX airline. The flight deck jumpseat is rarely occupied and if it is, OAL pilot jumpseaters are permitted to ride on a spare cabin jumpseat.
08-03-2022, 04:22 PM
#145
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Posts: 777
Originally Posted by Fpmx772
Unless I missed it in this thread, curious how the commute from clt to sdf and back is if anyone does it?
You can use our JS finder to see schedule info:
https://inside.ipapilot.org/tools/jumpseats/index.php
Flightaware can help too!.
08-05-2022, 07:24 PM
#146
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Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 523
Originally Posted by FlightLife
From what I can tell, the commute is quite doable for both SDF and ONT out of SLC; leaning toward SDF for the affordability of crash pad. If this is true, which of the two light twins makes for a better commuter schedule? Is there much difference?
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08-06-2022, 06:28 AM
#147
New Hire
Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 1
Commuting from ILM as a New Hire?
Does anyone have experience commuting from Wilmington, NC as a new hire? Sounds like it could be complicated getting to ANC, maybe not so much SDF. Allso wondering if you can bid the 14day lines in ANC to cut down the commute.
08-06-2022, 07:15 AM
#148
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,931
Originally Posted by Dash7000
Does anyone have experience commuting from Wilmington, NC as a new hire? Sounds like it could be complicated getting to ANC, maybe not so much SDF. Allso wondering if you can bid the 14day lines in ANC to cut down the commute.
08-06-2022, 02:26 PM
#150
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Originally Posted by Gilligan13
What are the rest of the lines like, 7 on 7 off?
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