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Old 07-01-2022, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Grease View Post
… but I haven’t seen any pilot envy amongst our group, and I haven’t heard of anyone leaving Brown to go to Delta lately.
If we weren’t almost certainly heading into a recession I’d probably (try to) jump over to DL. As this TA extension exposed, we most likely aren’t getting a home run in the next contract on pay or any significant scheduling improvements.

Domiciles, or the lack of decent domicile choices at Brown are a big problem (for me) considering commuting under these current schedules.

Tired of being tired all the time and the commute, regardless of how easy, still contributes in wearing you down.

To me, the whole dynamic of this place / the thought of 20 something more years of it is hard to digest…

Anyway, not defending my position here or saying the grass is greener elsewhere, etc., just offering some insight on my thought process to potential new hires and stating that there are some of us on the seniority list eyeballing other options - I’m not the only one. But ya know, golden handcuffs and all….
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Old 07-04-2022, 08:52 AM
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If living in Louisville was an option for you, do you think you’d be as interested in leaving. My understanding is that’s domicile living at UPS probably trumps domicile living at pax—assuming you like Kentucky. Bonus question: is there a “base housing” area in sdf like peachtree city is for delta folks?
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Old 07-05-2022, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by FTv3 View Post
If we weren’t almost certainly heading into a recession I’d probably (try to) jump over to DL. As this TA extension exposed, we most likely aren’t getting a home run in the next contract on pay or any significant scheduling improvements.

Domiciles, or the lack of decent domicile choices at Brown are a big problem (for me) considering commuting under these current schedules.

Tired of being tired all the time and the commute, regardless of how easy, still contributes in wearing you down.

To me, the whole dynamic of this place / the thought of 20 something more years of it is hard to digest…

Anyway, not defending my position here or saying the grass is greener elsewhere, etc., just offering some insight on my thought process to potential new hires and stating that there are some of us on the seniority list eyeballing other options - I’m not the only one. But ya know, golden handcuffs and all….
Bull! We’ve had a handful leave but they’ve been pilots who live in MEM and get hired by FedEx or something similar. As far as the TA extension exposing anything I think your analysis is unjustified.
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Old 07-05-2022, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by FTv3 View Post
If we weren’t almost certainly heading into a recession I’d probably (try to) jump over to DL. As this TA extension exposed, we most likely aren’t getting a home run in the next contract on pay or any significant scheduling improvements.

Domiciles, or the lack of decent domicile choices at Brown are a big problem (for me) considering commuting under these current schedules.

Tired of being tired all the time and the commute, regardless of how easy, still contributes in wearing you down.

To me, the whole dynamic of this place / the thought of 20 something more years of it is hard to digest…

Anyway, not defending my position here or saying the grass is greener elsewhere, etc., just offering some insight on my thought process to potential new hires and stating that there are some of us on the seniority list eyeballing other options - I’m not the only one. But ya know, golden handcuffs and all….

You sound pretty miserable brother, and you didn’t offer a good reason to not move on to Delta. Even a bad economy isn’t stopping the massive pilot shortage coming to the legacies. I’m not sure how long you’ve been here, but golden handcuffs aren’t a thing if you hate your job this much. Sounds like it would be a mistake you’d always regret to not pursue the other side of this industry. Life’s too short…
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Old 07-07-2022, 12:54 AM
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Miserable? Hate this job? Apparently you guys haven’t been reading these threads for the last 8+ years now but go ahead and keep missing the point I was trying to make.

For the potential new hires: a lot of IPA folk think UPS is the best and highest paying pilot job in the universe and some of them can’t comprehend how others could possibly disagree. Read these threads from pre-2014 if you want to see the other side of the coin. I think we all agree Boiler is a reputable poster - even he constantly writes, “…UPS is not for everyone.” My point is that some of us realize this (to various degrees of agreement) after they’ve been on property for a while. Do your research! Buyer beware.

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Old 07-07-2022, 10:01 AM
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And yet some upgrade at 1st possible chance…which is kool…but then complain about QOL. smh
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Old 07-07-2022, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jetlaggy View Post
And yet some upgrade at 1st possible chance…which is kool…but then complain about QOL. smh

I think a lot of that comes from the fact quite a few of these trips should be illegal no matter one’s seniority. That said, not using the fatigue policy for its intended use definitely makes the problem worse.
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Old 07-07-2022, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by FTv3 View Post
If we weren’t almost certainly heading into a recession I’d probably (try to) jump over to DL. As this TA extension exposed, we most likely aren’t getting a home run in the next contract on pay or any significant scheduling improvements.

Domiciles, or the lack of decent domicile choices at Brown are a big problem (for me) considering commuting under these current schedules.

Tired of being tired all the time and the commute, regardless of how easy, still contributes in wearing you down.

To me, the whole dynamic of this place / the thought of 20 something more years of it is hard to digest…

Anyway, not defending my position here or saying the grass is greener elsewhere, etc., just offering some insight on my thought process to potential new hires and stating that there are some of us on the seniority list eyeballing other options - I’m not the only one. But ya know, golden handcuffs and all….
Maybe you should consider switching fleets, or bidding for flying that agrees with you a little more. Or failing that, switching to Delta if you can. Especially if you’re senior to me
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Old 07-07-2022, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jetlaggy View Post
And yet some upgrade at 1st possible chance…which is kool…but then complain about QOL. smh
Everyone who surfs the B&G knows who you are talking about. I happen to agree with the poster that our current scheduling rules have been essentially compromised by the “optimizer” software. I’m not sure if any rules we could negotiate would survive contact with the software. This is an industry wide issue, but our heavy dose of night flying can make it intolerable.
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Old 07-07-2022, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by FTv3 View Post
If we weren’t almost certainly heading into a recession I’d probably (try to) jump over to DL. As this TA extension exposed, we most likely aren’t getting a home run in the next contract on pay or any significant scheduling improvements.

Domiciles, or the lack of decent domicile choices at Brown are a big problem (for me) considering commuting under these current schedules.

Tired of being tired all the time and the commute, regardless of how easy, still contributes in wearing you down.

To me, the whole dynamic of this place / the thought of 20 something more years of it is hard to digest…

Anyway, not defending my position here or saying the grass is greener elsewhere, etc., just offering some insight on my thought process to potential new hires and stating that there are some of us on the seniority list eyeballing other options - I’m not the only one. But ya know, golden handcuffs and all….
If I judged you based on your posts here, I would say you’re bipolar. I don’t mean to be a giant d!ck, but you are hot and cold. You’ve constantly compared UPS to Delta and it’s clear to see you’re angry you didn’t get hired by Delta first. If you need to leave here to go to Delta, then go, I’m certain they’ll hire you. As an outsider, it seems you’re bitter that you’re here and probably miserable, even though you’re fairly senior in your fleet. I know who you are, you could upgrade anytime, you fly senior schedules in fleet, yet you get on here and act happy one day and miserable the other. You need to make up your mind and figure things out, you’re too deep in here to be confused and miserable. Basically, $hit or get off the pot. There’s plenty of people watching and taking note of your misery. Most people here aren’t b!tching like you, especially those with your seniority. I’m not far behind you and life ain’t that bad here. You need to figure it out for yourself. Lots of miserable posts here about being here versus Delta. They’re hiring like crazy, now is your chance. I sincerely wish you the best of luck.
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