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Old 01-28-2014, 02:39 PM
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Hey thanks you guys! As I posted earlier, I am expecting a class date soon. Well I just got the call, but missed it. Nice lady asked which airplane I wanted in her message. So now I have a couple of more questions before I call her back. Actually I returned her call, but it went to voice mail.

I live near Portland, but have family in Houston. From what I have read in the preceding 398 pages, it looks like Houston is junior and Portland is senior on the jet. My question is, how long has the most junior pilot in Portland been with the company. I don't care if I am stuck on reserve for a couple of years. I am wondering if I take Houston, assuming I can hold that fairly quickly, how long will it take to get Portland on the jet? How long after class is it before a new hire can hold Houston? Are the bid lines constructed so that someone could have a crash pad in Houston and commute to Portland a couple of times a month for a couple of days?

I know I could take the Bro and get Portland right away. But I really would prefer the jet. I guess I have SJS. It appears the info about class dates being near the end of the month is correct. The message said the class date would be Feb 24th.
You would get over how much you liked the jet in a month, if you can live in base you would definitely regret commuting to fly the jet. This cannot be emphasized enough.
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Old 01-28-2014, 02:59 PM
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Just take the BRO. Fly it for two years and make a lot more money and actually enjoy life! Then you will have 2 years senority to transfer to the jet. Don't let the SJS get the better of you! I have been on property for 5 months including training and am already bidding 50% in the BRO.
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Old 01-28-2014, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Skykid View Post
What is the new pay package about?
Significant increase in EMB FO pay year 2-7 in exchange for a longer seat lockk.
How long after class for someone to hold Houston on the jet? I may consider relocating there.
You might get it out of class, not too many want it. Within 6-12 months I'd presume though.
How do LAX and SFO compare to Houston and Portland on the jet?
SFO & LAX probably longer than a year. Senior EMB FOs will transition over to those seats before you could hold it.
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Old 01-28-2014, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYZERG View Post
You would get over how much you liked the jet in a month, if you can live in base you would definitely regret commuting to fly the jet. This cannot be emphasized enough.
This needs to be reposted over and over. No matter how much you "prefer" the jet over the brasilia, commuting for it will make your life miserable. REPEAT: YOU WILL HATE LIFE COMMUTING. The pay is the same the first year, and probably will the second if the pay proposal passes. Portland to anywhere is a lousy commute, there is a lot of competition. Houston out of anywhere is a lousy commute. Take it from someone who has lived in domicile and commuted, the only way to truly be happy doing this job is to minimize your stress and maximize your time at home. Commuting is the exact opposite of how to make that happen. End rant. :-) Welcome aboard.

Oh, and P.S., SkyKid, you're completely wrong. You will definitely mind sitting reserve after a couple of years. The only thing worse is commuting to sit reserve.

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Old 01-28-2014, 04:44 PM
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Could not agree more. Commuting is miserable. I took the Bro, live in domicile (an hour and 15 minutes away, close enough) and my QOL is great. Take the Bro.
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Old 01-28-2014, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Skykid View Post
Hey thanks you guys! As I posted earlier, I am expecting a class date soon. Well I just got the call, but missed it. Nice lady asked which airplane I wanted in her message. So now I have a couple of more questions before I call her back. Actually I returned her call, but it went to voice mail.

I live near Portland, but have family in Houston. From what I have read in the preceding 398 pages, it looks like Houston is junior and Portland is senior on the jet. My question is, how long has the most junior pilot in Portland been with the company. I don't care if I am stuck on reserve for a couple of years. I am wondering if I take Houston, assuming I can hold that fairly quickly, how long will it take to get Portland on the jet? How long after class is it before a new hire can hold Houston? Are the bid lines constructed so that someone could have a crash pad in Houston and commute to Portland a couple of times a month for a couple of days?

I know I could take the Bro and get Portland right away. But I really would prefer the jet. I guess I have SJS. It appears the info about class dates being near the end of the month is correct. The message said the class date would be Feb 24th.
I'll echo what other people have said. I actually live in an RJ base but I commuted out west to the Brasilia for a year and a half. Commuting isn't fun and being on reserve isn't fun. About the least fun thing you can do is commute to reserve. If you live in PDX You'll hold a line on the brasilia pretty quick, or you can commute to DEN and sit reserve for 2 years. Take the brasilia.
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Old 01-28-2014, 05:45 PM
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What about PHX or TUS? How junior are they? Are chances good of getting either of these bases out of training? I live in PHX, but wouldn't mind TUS either. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 01-28-2014, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 10SNE1 View Post
What about PHX or TUS? How junior are they? Are chances good of getting either of these bases out of training? I live in PHX, but wouldn't mind TUS either. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks.
The most junior guy in PHX has been there here almost 2.5 years, the problem with PHX is it's not growing nor is it going to grow. A lot of guys want to get in too.

TUS is a little more junior, with the most Junior guy being here a little more then 1.5 years. its a very small base with only 15 crews. You never know with these small MX bases at OO, they can be very senior and junior it just depends.
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Old 01-28-2014, 07:35 PM
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May sound like a ridiculous question, but don't mean to, Would a drive of, say two or two and a half hours to base still be considered "living in base"? What would be considered commuting to work? Just trying to clarify a criteria. Or would it be only when one must fly?

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Old 01-28-2014, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Flightsoffusion View Post
May sound like a ridiculous question, but don't mean to, Would a drive of, say two or two and a half hours to base still be considered "living in base"? What would be considered commuting to work? Just trying to clarify a criteria. Or would it be only when one must fly?

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"Commuting" is generally considered to mean flying into your base, because that when things like the commuting clause of the contract (if your regional has one), missed flights, etc., comes into play.

This might be more than you're asking, but driving 2, 2.5 hours, or even more could technically be considered "living in base", but would run into problems with reserve callout times, etc.
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