06-25-2015, 12:39 PM #42 (permalink)
el jefe

They have already painted lines at PHL with 145 nose wheel stop marks.

I posted that in the PDT ad irony thread.




Plus, I don't do walk arounds.

 

New hire here. I have an August class date right now and I need some info on what's going on with AWAC. With PDT moving into PHL should I concerned at all that I won't have a job come 2018? -And as for going to the majors what are my chances of moving on to them within the next few years? I'm 23 and I really want to start out at a place that's going to grow my career, not hold it back.

 

AWAC was a great place to be 10 years ago. With all the turmoil in the industry, it was a beacon of stability due to their iron clad agreement with US Airways.

However, that has come to a pass now.

Do yourself a favor and go to Piedmont. Seriously. I honestly see nothing to gain by going to AWAC over Piedmont at this point.

AWAC hired a bunch of guys about 10 years ago. Guys that are still there prior to that (ie the 10+ crowd) most likely aren't (or can't) move on. Of the guys hired 10 years ago, roughly 1/3 have moved on telling me a good portion also aren't going to jump ship. It's basically the next ASA, XJT, SKYW, etc. Top heavy, little movement (for CA's, lots of junior FO's leaving) etc.

That being said, you could luck out. But even if everything goes your way at AWAC, you'd still be in a worse position because you don't have that guaranteed job waiting for you.

 

There is a Great Lakes pilot that recently got hired at AA at the age of 25.

Nobody cares where you came from. Except Delta, who doesn't touch Comair guys.

Go to whichever company you think offers the best of what you want out of the job. Get in the training dept or some other leadership role and network. That's how you get the next job, not by picking the one with a great contract.

 

You're wrong, and your point was you want people to think the majors care where you work. They don't give a crap.

Allegiant and Frontier maybe. But the vast majority of quality majors hire mostly Captains, and more often than not line check guys. When was the last time an FO was a check airman? It doesn't happen.

No matter the company or airplane you're operating, what sets people apart is PIC and LCA credentials.

Now, has Delta/UAL/AA hired AWAC FO's? Maybe one that I know of? Outside of that it's been left seaters. Just the way it is.

 

I was in CLT taking the Hotel Van to the Airport. 2 newhire American FO's sitting in the Van with me. I asked them where they flew before they went to Mainline. GoJets for both of them! Go figure.

 

Cool sorry bro. Go tell that to your Piedmont buddies.

 

I'm mildly concerned we won't be around but not losing any sleep over it. Either way I feel happy coming here because it afforded me a quality of life I wouldn't have gotten at most any other regional.

 

Pay and benefits is why you come to AWAC...we have a mainline style contract but we are a regional. If they change your schedule, cancel legs you still get paid what was originally scheduled at 100%. Get sent on a deadhead...still 100% pay.

Vacation, health care and many more smaller items that make the QOL here tops. Some may say that is all well and good but no flying in a few years...the little things still matter as nothing is absolute...

...as you just don't know what things are going to be like in two years. This year's sexy pick could be a mistake in 2018. Those offering a fast track to the left seat have a lot of poop smell while you are enjoying all the sex.

AWAC will likely not be shutting down in 2018...our performance is tops and that does mean something to mainline airlines that are looking for ways to make up for their wholly-owneds that sometimes can't seem to get it done consistently.

You being 23 could probably afford to languish as an FO at a place like PSA as their upgrade schedule grinds to a halt...and it will.

That being said, today AWAC can't promise you stability until you find a mainline to hire you...none of the regionals can...but you are more likely to be able to afford your time at the regionals and be much happier.

See you in class.

 

I know three AWAC f/os no pic time got on at ual and dal