737 Rate Proposal
#51
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 910
#52
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 910
Never occurred to me to wonder about it. A couple of complete strangers show up, work a 5-day and go home. Probably to never fly together again. I make a point to not pry into the complete strangers life. Called common courtesy. I do my own thing on layovers. Another common courtesy. I really dont care how the stranger flies and have nothing to say about it…As long as it resembles what the owners want. I am not an instructor and make a point of not instructing. ….I have nothing to say about whats on tv or whats on the internet or what Alaska has to say….So you know what I will do just for you. I will start asking FO’s that question st the end of the trip and I will get back to you…
#53
You must not have family. I'm good for one night out on a four-day, other then that I'm resting or doing family admin so I have the time and energy to be present when I'm home.
#54
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 910
Plenty of pilots with families also make the time to be present with the crew on the road. Especially in a "destination" layover. Sometimes it feels like an obligation, but I've never regretted it.
#55
the fact that you care about what someone else packs to eat on the road, or chooses to not be your “layover entertainment buddy” is breathtakingly unprofessional. A bunch of us have a life and priorities outside our job at at Alaska (families, other businesses we run etc). That doesn’t come to a screeching halt just to make sure you or Jenny/Jim in the back enjoy your 45 hr Newark layover are more enjoyable. And, also, even if you are an amazingly enjoyable conversationalist during the 6 hr ETOPS, they just wanna turn on “1883”, drink a beer and relax. Either way, the fact that you somehow feel entitled to THEIR time not flying, and if they don’t give it to you they’re not being “present with their crew” is unbelievable. We’re supposed to be adult professionals here.
I genuinely love 99.999% of the crews I fly with here. I think we have awesome people truly. Sometimes it works out to go hang. Sometimes it doesn’t. Sorry brother, It’s not 1965, you aren’t Di Caprio, and layovers aren’t a scene from Catch Me if You Can.
#56
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Joined APC: Jun 2019
Posts: 59
Day 1: 8 hours
Day 2: 2 hours
#57
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Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 647
Unfortunately, this is a very typical SEA trip at AS: 8 hours the first day (SEA-ANC or something-SEA-SMF), 24hr overnight, then 1 hour the second day (SMF-SEA). Complete waste of time that reports early, finishes late, completely wrecks you on day one, and still only pays 10 hours. Our proposed ADG would bring that garbage trip all the way up to.... 11 hours! Call your reps guys
#58
#59
One place I worked started really loading up the last day after 117 went into effect, on the premise that you'd be less likely to call fatigue, and more likely to take an extension on go-home day. They also made sure you didn't turn through base either.
#60
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Position: Precarious
Posts: 378
You have to consider what they *could* do with any new rules. People tend to look at how new rules would affect their current trips, but the company can and will adapt pairing construction to changes in rules.
One place I worked started really loading up the last day after 117 went into effect, on the premise that you'd be less likely to call fatigue, and more likely to take an extension on go-home day. They also made sure you didn't turn through base either.
One place I worked started really loading up the last day after 117 went into effect, on the premise that you'd be less likely to call fatigue, and more likely to take an extension on go-home day. They also made sure you didn't turn through base either.
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