SAN Base opening, finally…
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Nobody gets away with "paying for it" somehow. Everyone complains about CA tax, and I have my own issues with it, but property tax in many other "cheaper COL" states have higher property tax rates.
SAN is another expensive West Coast base that has cheaper surrounding suburbs. Its no different than SFO, PDX or SEA. There are tons of pilots who own 2 million+ homes in these domiciles and there are plenty of pilots who own 500k houses, a marginal drive away. There are 500k homes within a 45-minute drive from SFO. That is no different than SAN, SEA, and PDX.
SAN is another expensive West Coast base that has cheaper surrounding suburbs. Its no different than SFO, PDX or SEA. There are tons of pilots who own 2 million+ homes in these domiciles and there are plenty of pilots who own 500k houses, a marginal drive away. There are 500k homes within a 45-minute drive from SFO. That is no different than SAN, SEA, and PDX.
I’d argue a $800k home in say Idaho would be more like $2million in SEA. Rates may be higher in Boise, but for the type of home you could very well be break even or ahead.
I’dd rather pay $10k for an $800k home with 3500sqft and 3/4 acre yard, than pay $10k for a 2million small home with no yard in the Bay Area.
Then factor in exactly what your property taxes go towards.
I don’t own property in either place so just an example before the fact checkers dig into real estate values.
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My guess is that most of the Mexico flying out of SAN will turn, either back to SAN or somewhere north. Likely won’t have a lot of Mexico layovers, based on how the flying is build out of LAX.
Latin American layovers out of LAX have layovers ranging from 10:30 day rest short back (land at 5am, depart that afternoon and return LAX around 18:00) for GDL. The trip actually goes senior, since the footprint is from midnight to 18:00 and pays 10:30. Plus, GDL is about a 3 hours flight and easier to suffer through at night.
LIR can be anything from day rest-short back to 36 hours at one of the best layover hotels in the system (after a 2 hour drive). Plenty of 15ish hour layovers at the hotel near the airport. Also goes senior because of the footprint.
BZE 15 hour layover.
CUN short back for the red eye. 24-26 hour layover for the day time flights.
GUA roughly 24 hour layover
SJO roughly 24 hours
SJD and PVR sprinkled in, usually 20-24 hours.
Latin American layovers out of LAX have layovers ranging from 10:30 day rest short back (land at 5am, depart that afternoon and return LAX around 18:00) for GDL. The trip actually goes senior, since the footprint is from midnight to 18:00 and pays 10:30. Plus, GDL is about a 3 hours flight and easier to suffer through at night.
LIR can be anything from day rest-short back to 36 hours at one of the best layover hotels in the system (after a 2 hour drive). Plenty of 15ish hour layovers at the hotel near the airport. Also goes senior because of the footprint.
BZE 15 hour layover.
CUN short back for the red eye. 24-26 hour layover for the day time flights.
GUA roughly 24 hour layover
SJO roughly 24 hours
SJD and PVR sprinkled in, usually 20-24 hours.
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My guess is that most of the Mexico flying out of SAN will turn, either back to SAN or somewhere north. Likely won’t have a lot of Mexico layovers, based on how the flying is build out of LAX.
Latin American layovers out of LAX have layovers ranging from 10:30 day rest short back (land at 5am, depart that afternoon and return LAX around 18:00) for GDL. The trip actually goes senior, since the footprint is from midnight to 18:00 and pays 10:30. Plus, GDL is about a 3 hours flight and easier to suffer through at night.
LIR can be anything from day rest-short back to 36 hours at one of the best layover hotels in the system (after a 2 hour drive). Plenty of 15ish hour layovers at the hotel near the airport. Also goes senior because of the footprint.
BZE 15 hour layover.
CUN short back for the red eye. 24-26 hour layover for the day time flights.
GUA roughly 24 hour layover
SJO roughly 24 hours
SJD and PVR sprinkled in, usually 20-24 hours.
Latin American layovers out of LAX have layovers ranging from 10:30 day rest short back (land at 5am, depart that afternoon and return LAX around 18:00) for GDL. The trip actually goes senior, since the footprint is from midnight to 18:00 and pays 10:30. Plus, GDL is about a 3 hours flight and easier to suffer through at night.
LIR can be anything from day rest-short back to 36 hours at one of the best layover hotels in the system (after a 2 hour drive). Plenty of 15ish hour layovers at the hotel near the airport. Also goes senior because of the footprint.
BZE 15 hour layover.
CUN short back for the red eye. 24-26 hour layover for the day time flights.
GUA roughly 24 hour layover
SJO roughly 24 hours
SJD and PVR sprinkled in, usually 20-24 hours.
That LIR with a 2 hr drive was delayed even longer recently due to an accident/road conditions and ended up causing a cancellation due to some customs/airport/timing issue. The evening LIR-LAX flight. What a ridiculous reason for a cancel. How long for this hotel to last? I like nice locations and all but a 1.6-2 hr drive each way is ridiculous.
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That LIR with a 2 hr drive was delayed even longer recently due to an accident/road conditions and ended up causing a cancellation due to some customs/airport/timing issue. The evening LIR-LAX flight. What a ridiculous reason for a cancel. How long for this hotel to last? I like nice locations and all but a 1.6-2 hr drive each way is ridiculous.
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Wait I’m a narcissist but you’re constantly making stuff up about me. SkyWest had great coworkers, super good IT and the local base managers and training people did their best to make it a good place to work. I’ve never strayed from that.
You just can’t help lying to prove a point.
You just can’t help lying to prove a point.
But that would be the only thing.
#277
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This isn’t Tokyo, London, Paris, Rome. That 4 hr drive just isn’t worth it IMO. Now a 50+ hr layover like FAs have, sure.
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