Alaska thread for Alaska pilots...
08-31-2015, 10:43 PM
#521
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Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
To the fools who thought scope wasn't worth the paper it was written on...this joke is on you! Now AAG will get all the shiny RJs they want before the contract is even amendable. Wonder why scope was a hard "no" by the company in the last negotiation...
Must be nice to be able to switch sides at a whim of $ signs, or be named "company legend" while playing ball for the pilot group. Tom Brady, 2015 MVP, Seahawks!
09-01-2015, 01:52 PM
#525
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Posts: 106
So what can AS Pilots aim for? This may be a long reach but I want to bring it up.
Propose a scope that maintains a certain majority ratio of mainline to regional aircraft, with a seat cap of 76 and a total hull limit. If mainline pilots are furloughed, first class seats will be removed from the regional jets. I believe DAL has similar language.
Aim for pay rates that take average ALPA 737 pay (UAL/DAL) + 3%.
Maintain credit of trips dropped with vacation. Or at least maintain guarantee. If PBS comes up, create language similar to other carriers.
Raise 401K contribution to 16%.
Uniform and headset bank.
Lodging for new hires at least through indoc/systems. Long term training credit raised to 85, including per diem.
Increase int'l override and create an int'l per diem.
Consider the possibility of pay banding similar to UAL/DAL.
Consider joint venture language on an international scale to protect/improve possibility of larger aircraft on int'l routes to be flown by AS pilots.
What else?
Propose a scope that maintains a certain majority ratio of mainline to regional aircraft, with a seat cap of 76 and a total hull limit. If mainline pilots are furloughed, first class seats will be removed from the regional jets. I believe DAL has similar language.
Aim for pay rates that take average ALPA 737 pay (UAL/DAL) + 3%.
Maintain credit of trips dropped with vacation. Or at least maintain guarantee. If PBS comes up, create language similar to other carriers.
Raise 401K contribution to 16%.
Uniform and headset bank.
Lodging for new hires at least through indoc/systems. Long term training credit raised to 85, including per diem.
Increase int'l override and create an int'l per diem.
Consider the possibility of pay banding similar to UAL/DAL.
Consider joint venture language on an international scale to protect/improve possibility of larger aircraft on int'l routes to be flown by AS pilots.
What else?
09-01-2015, 01:59 PM
#526
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Joined APC: Nov 2012
Position: Captain
Posts: 327
Alaska thread for Alaska pilots...
Originally Posted by Chris Knight
So what can AS Pilots aim for? This may be a long reach but I want to bring it up.
Propose a scope that maintains a certain majority ratio of mainline to regional aircraft, with a seat cap of 76 and a total hull limit. If mainline pilots are furloughed, first class seats will be removed from the regional jets. I believe DAL has similar language.
Aim for pay rates that take average ALPA 737 pay (UAL/DAL) + 3%.
Maintain credit of trips dropped with vacation. Or at least maintain guarantee. If PBS comes up, create language similar to other carriers.
Raise 401K contribution to 16%.
Uniform and headset bank.
Lodging for new hires at least through indoc/systems. Long term training credit raised to 85, including per diem.
Increase int'l override and create an int'l per diem.
Consider the possibility of pay banding similar to UAL/DAL.
Consider joint venture language on an international scale to protect/improve possibility of larger aircraft on int'l routes to be flown by AS pilots.
What else?
Propose a scope that maintains a certain majority ratio of mainline to regional aircraft, with a seat cap of 76 and a total hull limit. If mainline pilots are furloughed, first class seats will be removed from the regional jets. I believe DAL has similar language.
Aim for pay rates that take average ALPA 737 pay (UAL/DAL) + 3%.
Maintain credit of trips dropped with vacation. Or at least maintain guarantee. If PBS comes up, create language similar to other carriers.
Raise 401K contribution to 16%.
Uniform and headset bank.
Lodging for new hires at least through indoc/systems. Long term training credit raised to 85, including per diem.
Increase int'l override and create an int'l per diem.
Consider the possibility of pay banding similar to UAL/DAL.
Consider joint venture language on an international scale to protect/improve possibility of larger aircraft on int'l routes to be flown by AS pilots.
What else?
I like it... Now we just need A LOT of our pilots to retire and maybe we can get it... So reality will be hows 250 sound and FOs get a pay cut and drop their 401K to 9%.... They'll only show how great the pay is for captains at the road show and never put anything up about FOs.
09-01-2015, 02:05 PM
#527
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Posts: 106
Originally Posted by CassinAK
I like it... Now we just need A LOT of our pilots to retire and maybe we can get it... So reality will be hows 250 sound and FOs get a pay cut and drop their 401K to 9%.... They'll only show how great the pay is for captains at the road show and never put anything up about FOs.
09-01-2015, 03:18 PM
#528
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Joined APC: Dec 2011
Posts: 20
Originally Posted by Chris Knight
So what can AS Pilots aim for? This may be a long reach but I want to bring it up.
Propose a scope that maintains a certain majority ratio of mainline to regional aircraft, with a seat cap of 76 and a total hull limit. If mainline pilots are furloughed, first class seats will be removed from the regional jets. I believe DAL has similar language.
Aim for pay rates that take average ALPA 737 pay (UAL/DAL) + 3%.
Maintain credit of trips dropped with vacation. Or at least maintain guarantee. If PBS comes up, create language similar to other carriers.
Raise 401K contribution to 16%.
Uniform and headset bank.
Lodging for new hires at least through indoc/systems. Long term training credit raised to 85, including per diem.
Increase int'l override and create an int'l per diem.
Consider the possibility of pay banding similar to UAL/DAL.
Consider joint venture language on an international scale to protect/improve possibility of larger aircraft on int'l routes to be flown by AS pilots.
What else?
Propose a scope that maintains a certain majority ratio of mainline to regional aircraft, with a seat cap of 76 and a total hull limit. If mainline pilots are furloughed, first class seats will be removed from the regional jets. I believe DAL has similar language.
Aim for pay rates that take average ALPA 737 pay (UAL/DAL) + 3%.
Maintain credit of trips dropped with vacation. Or at least maintain guarantee. If PBS comes up, create language similar to other carriers.
Raise 401K contribution to 16%.
Uniform and headset bank.
Lodging for new hires at least through indoc/systems. Long term training credit raised to 85, including per diem.
Increase int'l override and create an int'l per diem.
Consider the possibility of pay banding similar to UAL/DAL.
Consider joint venture language on an international scale to protect/improve possibility of larger aircraft on int'l routes to be flown by AS pilots.
What else?
09-01-2015, 03:20 PM
#529
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Joined APC: Aug 2009
Posts: 396
I know you guys are kidding but let's not divide and conquer from bottom up. That's the sort of stuff that got us to where we are today-senior guys throwing the junior folks under the bus.
As long as pilots are negotiating against the company, we will surely get our nuts handed to us AGAIN-never fails. A couple of weeks of negotiations training in Herndon just doesn't cut it. Sure, we have professional negotiators according to ALPO. Major league vs. little league or more like S.F. Giants vs. The Bad New Bears!
As long as pilots are negotiating against the company, we will surely get our nuts handed to us AGAIN-never fails. A couple of weeks of negotiations training in Herndon just doesn't cut it. Sure, we have professional negotiators according to ALPO. Major league vs. little league or more like S.F. Giants vs. The Bad New Bears!
09-01-2015, 04:04 PM
#530
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Joined APC: Nov 2012
Position: Captain
Posts: 327
Originally Posted by Chris Knight
Well dang. There are more and more juniors on property.. Any idea on retirement numbers by the amendable date? When is that btw? I read it is March 2018, but others say it is 2017.
It was amended April 2013. The amazing contract lasts 5 years so April 2018.
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