Packrat

It was. As was the 92% average.

CassinAK

It used to be.

2loud

Generally speaking, majority of the people are sheep.
As for Alaskan, if you study the demographics of this pilot group, you will figure out why there are more than our share of sheep. We can count on attrition to get rid of the sheep but as you've stated, the company does a good job of hiring a new breed of sheep. This small pilot group reminds me of a bad cult movie.

ExperimentalAB

Is that even a serious question? Do you think I'm that short-sighted? Number one, there is no reason to give up pay to demand scope. If it came down to that, you bet I'd take a few dollar hit to insure my CAREER.

A few posts back you mentioned flying empty 737s wasn't smart. Seems you've been fooled by airline management and the manufacturers, having designated the 175 as an "RJ." There is nothing "regional" about that aircraft. It is in name only, and apparently they've succeeded in making mainline pilots think they're too small to fly for honest wages. Those "ERJs" are mainline aircraft that should be flown by mainline pilots.

Have you seen a 175 parked next to a 700 yet? That will blow your mind. Now say Boeing put an "RJ" in front of their smaller variants, would you petition AAG to have SkyWest fly it?

gooddeal

Now is your chance to put it out there...and it's a serious question: How much pay are you willing to give up for scope language?

ExperimentalAB

I would gladly take a hit for scope, and then work on pay the next contract because NOTHING matters without job protection. I won't give a dollar figure because it's a lousy mindset to be in. We shouldn't have to give a penny, it just has to be made THE priority in negotiation capital.

CassinAK

The serious question is how much does it cost to keep you voting for scopeless contracts that offer basically zero job protection? I guess the answer to that is 200.00 dollars an hour.

ExperimentalAB

CassinAK is exactly right.

Gooddeal - I invite you to ask any other legacy pilot if they would still have given up scope for pay rates knowing what they do now. Ask them how many jobs it cost them. Alaska has the benefit of their hindsight, and is going to squander it...it will cost the pilot group dearly.

poostain

You sure you don't work for the Delta MEC? Seriously, what these guys are saying is true. Having watched my job get outsourced while I was furloughed I know how important scope is. It's management mentality to think YOU always have to give up something to get something. I understand in negotiations there will be some give and take, but You are labor and need to act like it to protect your job. Management hates it when pilots act like labor that's how you get your scope back.

2loud

When asked why the negotiators think that scope isn't worth the paper it's written, one of the ALPO reps said that scope is something the pilot group can get during bad economic conditions. Why, because we can't get money out of the company so we'll just have to settle for scope? Seriously, that's what this guy said. That's just plain retarded. This is who we have negotiating for us. Pathetic!
"Willing to give up?".... ZERO! Kasher took pretty much everything; we don't owe the company anything. We can score Academy winning contracts for the next 3 decades and it won't make up for all of the losses-not even close. Alaskan is making all time record profits and did they return a penny back to this pilot group? CEO pay has gone up by 937% since 1978. Yeah, they make more than 10 times what they made 30 years ago. What did a 747 captain make it 1978? What's he making today? Greed never stops. Why do you think labor has to give up anything? Wake up, boys 'n girls! Change the mentality and change the game!