Originally Posted by 2loud

Do you even work for Alaska Airlines? If so, do you even know the details of the scope language in our current contract? Better yet, were you born yesterday?
45 RJs flying (by 2017) mid range runs that the 737s used to/can fly is not considered "job disappearance"? 30% of AAG's fleet could be RJs, that is if QX will get to do the flying, and only if they let the company jam a paycut up their a$$. How would you feel if you were a Horizon guy right now? More realistically speaking, Skywest will be doing the flying given the $hit ultimatum given to the QX pilot group by this air group. Corporate America at its finest! With nicer, bigger, longer range RJs coming online that are flown by pilots who are paid a fraction of main line pilots, do you think that management will stop because they are reasonable and ethical human beings with a soul? You are absolutely right, they do care about their investors and only their investors. Why? It's the hand that feeds them and the labor group is just that-hired hand.
The company keeps throwing turd carrots on a stick to this ignorant pilot group by promising growth and these pilots willingly eat them. They tell the pilot group that the RJs will feed the -800/-900ERs and that if the RJ routes grow in demand, they'll put the 737s on those routes. How's that working out to our advantage so far, genius? That's right.....we have no leg to stand on because we have NO scope that's worth a damn!

Originally Posted by CassinAK

The serious question is how much does it cost to keep you voting for scopeless contracts that offer basically zero job protection? I guess the answer to that is 200.00 dollars an hour.

Originally Posted by gooddeal

Clearly a lot of heat here but not a lot of facts. I'm no genius but since 2013, the 737 fleet size has increased, the AS pilot group has increased, destinations served along with total capacity has increased...how does that equal job disappearance or doesn't represent growth?

Originally Posted by gooddeal

Clearly a lot of heat here but not a lot of facts. I'm no genius but since 2013, the 737 fleet size has increased, the AS pilot group has increased, destinations served along with total capacity has increased...how does that equal job disappearance or doesn't represent growth?

Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB

What rock have you been hiding under??? Sure the 737 fleet has grown, but the -400s have yet to be retired (coming soon), which negates much of that. Add the additional THIRTY large RJs coming and right there is your job disappearance. Those jets ought to be flown by Alaska pilots. Period.

Originally Posted by gooddeal

Not under a rock...but maybe a different perspective. When I've been saying job disappearance, I've referred to current AS pilots losing their job...which isn't happening through 2017 even with all the -400s off the property since AS will be +6 737s from 2015 fleet size. I'm assuming you refer to job disappearance as the adding of 30 E175s flown by QX/OO pilots does not create jobs that should only be created for AS pilots?

Originally Posted by gooddeal

Not under a rock...but maybe a different perspective. When I've been saying job disappearance, I've referred to current AS pilots losing their job...which isn't happening through 2017 even with all the -400s off the property since AS will be +6 737s from 2015 fleet size. I'm assuming you refer to job disappearance as the adding of 30 E175s flown by QX/OO pilots does not create jobs that should only be created for AS pilots?

Originally Posted by gooddeal

Clearly a lot of heat here but not a lot of facts. I'm no genius but since 2013, the 737 fleet size has increased, the AS pilot group has increased, destinations served along with total capacity has increased...how does that equal job disappearance or doesn't represent growth?

Originally Posted by Klsytakesit

Baja my brother.....It is a shame that you had to leave Alaskans world for Widget world to find brothers and sisters with ballz....