No AS has plenty of HI and transcontinental flying with a second leg. Nothing would change you just would have VX pilots based in SFO on the Boeing and AS guys on the bus in SEA. At this point AS has no plans to have a 320 base in the PNW or a 73 base in SFO... this is looking out to the end of 2021. I know though, a lot of us feel there is no real plan at all at angle lake right now... so 2021 must make everyone laugh

 

Good to hear about the second leg deal, that seemed quite unproductive.

At least we are going to PIT next fall (2018)!! Stay positive man!

 

It was the cornerstone of the Merger/Fragmentation Policy until the early '90s when UAL forced its replacement with "career expectations."

 

They usually tack it on BEFORE the transcon. Had a couple months of DEN-SEA-EWR at one point.

 

Looking at the previous arbitrated mergers I estimate that the number 1vx will be slotted amongst people that were hired in the 90's. If you made me bet I would guess around '97-98ish.

Whatever leverage AS pilots had over VX over the SLI was declined to be used by the AS MEC. They decided that it was better to have a unified pilot group and fight together over wages with a quick integration than fight for a better SLI for AS pilots. For better or for worse? I dont't know. I do hope the VX guys give us a little more respect and consideration because of it.

Now that that ship has sailed AS pilots are left with no real leverage in this SLI since all of the precedents cut against AS with regards to the proper weight of longevity. 15-30% is the current range of outcomes. There are lots of good arguments for why that number should be more than 30%...As an AS pilot I am hoping for something closer to a 40 or 50...but we are nowhere near talking about anything close to a 100% weighting for longevity which is what DOH advocates are advocating.

When all this is done, there is nothing good for AS pilots that would have come from this merger. The only AS pilots that will be cheering are the retirees with their new expanded travel network to stand-by on.

 

Agreed, We're along for the ride now. It will be, what it will be.

 

Look at the cute little troll.

 

A lot of mergers have happened since.

 

True. However, the whole reason for the change was to keep USAir pilots out of UAL widebody seats. Up until that point DoH was the gold standard. After that more than a few mergers saw one or the other pilot group getting hosed.

 

You might want to check on the Pan Am/ National merger (1979). In the book "Skygods", Robert Gandt chronicles how arbitrator favored "career expectations" in that merger. Many Pan Am pilots felt hosed, seeing themselves hundreds of numbers lower in seniority than they expected. There were some National Captains that had later DOH than many Pan Am SO's.