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Old 09-09-2020 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw
The union doesn't care either. Also we aren't even aloud to discuss it on the union facebook so I guess the 100 have already been thrown away. Classy group we have here.

How do you propose we negotiate with a company that doesn't want to negotiate?
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Old 09-09-2020 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Losamigos
How do you propose we negotiate with a company that doesn't want to negotiate?
Any negotiations start with agreeing to meet and discuss. That's not even happening. The company claims they want to help us. The union claims they want to help us. but nobody wants to make the first move. Someone needs to make a proposal. The company threw out a BS proposal with the STTO, the union walked away, and that was it? The union claims they are holding some imaginary line. I could turn that around and say their aren't holding anything if there's no talks happening. It's all just smoke.
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Old 09-09-2020 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw
It's all just smoke.
Yup.

Everything you say.
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Old 09-09-2020 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw
Any negotiations start with agreeing to meet and discuss. That's not even happening. The company claims they want to help us. The union claims they want to help us. but nobody wants to make the first move. Someone needs to make a proposal. The company threw out a BS proposal with the STTO, the union walked away, and that was it? The union claims they are holding some imaginary line. I could turn that around and say their aren't holding anything if there's no talks happening. It's all just smoke.
have you talked to any union leadership? Posting here is a waste of everyone’s time.
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Old 09-09-2020 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by rdneckpilot
have you talked to any union leadership? Posting here is a waste of everyone’s time.
Agreed. Trying to negotiate on an anonymous open forum? Why?
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Old 09-10-2020 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by PiltWhosNotMgnt
Agreed. Trying to negotiate on an anonymous open forum? Why?
Because anyone who speaks against union policy on the official forum gets shouted down by the stewards and called names by members then gets their post deleted. Bunch of communists over there. Way too censored. Echo chamber. Only aloud to praise the union over there.
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Old 09-10-2020 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw
Because anyone who speaks against union policy on the official forum gets shouted down by the stewards and called names by members then gets their post deleted. Bunch of communists over there. Way too censored. Echo chamber. Only aloud to praise the union over there.
Start your own union, I heard you have vast experience. Don’t like the fb page start your own. You could be the modern day antifa.
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Old 09-10-2020 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw
Because anyone who speaks against union policy on the official forum gets shouted down by the stewards and called names by members then gets their post deleted. Bunch of communists over there. Way too censored. Echo chamber. Only aloud to praise the union over there.
Are you a non-management pilot of ours?
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Old 09-12-2020 | 07:39 AM
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Glad to hear the union and the company are talking again.
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Old 09-12-2020 | 09:27 AM
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They can talk but it’s the company listening and learning from our peers that’s key.

Exhausting trying to reinvent the wheel around here.
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