You never know what a given person’s situation is; they might be in a position where it’s simply not possible to leave. I’m sure if you use your imagination you can think up a few scenarios where that would be the case.

 

It’s not $250k anymore, more like $350+ year 2. Year 12 $450-500+. Some legacy fleets have 20-30% day trips. It doesn’t take long to hold shorter trips and only spend 4-6 nights a month away if you live in base.

 

Give it up dude. You're fighting a 1 man fight to keep your sweet gig at the top of the pyramid scheme going.

I get it. You know that this place will shut down if they can't get meat in the seats and you have no other options. You're scared.

But continuing to sell a pyramid scheme to unsuspecting pilots is a shady move.

 

In base is the key. I would be a commuter from either the Destin area or Orlando area

 

What's the length of these TDYs? I could handle a week or two once or twice a year, but not a month.

 

TDY’s are for the entire bid month.
They positive-space you there at the beginning & home at the end. Anything in-between is on you.
There are some general seasonal trends of how they TDY, but it’s hard to predict. You won’t know if your base is affected ‘till bids come out the month prior. You might never get hit some pilots have been TDY’d 6 or more months in a year. I personally know 3 pilots that I flew with who quit & moved on because of repeated TDY.

 

Huh?? Keep dodging the question I guess. But it is the elephant in the room: why are y’all still here and calling everybody fools, suckers, naive, etc for staying here or considering coming here?

Actions speak louder than words. As long as y’all stay here your doom and gloom scenarios just don’t carry much weight. They are simply anonymous rants on the interwebs.

I’ve never sold a pyramid scheme: I’ve only ever said that this place is only possible if you live in base and that those bases are likely Midwest small bases. In 2021 was the only one on here saying that a TA won’t happen until 2024 at the earliest - even when AR and his lapdogs were spreading unrealistic expectations (KC was adamant that I was a management tool for saying AR was out of touch and naive at how long negotiations would take).

Those are pretty much it? Oh and you didn’t like my take on railroads strike threat affecting airlines - after Congress acted I’ll take my victory lap on that one too.

 

You should pull up my 2021 post, I kept saying it would take 4-7 years and you would easily be a legacy CA before we get a TA, which has already played out. I even mentioned breaking the 121 record for the longest expired contract is on the table.

 

The real elephant in the room is how you make assumptions, jump to conclusions, and fail to read the room/see the big picture. The only fool and sucker still here is you.

 

Haha, but still no one wants to answer the question why they stay. "None of your business". Is it that much of a secret?

Ill go first: I stay because I value my family time more than Delta/AA/United money. The day I have to spend 2-4 nights a week away dragging a bag through a hotel again will be awful. Been there done that. Thats just me. Everyones situation is different and obviously QOL mileage here WILL vary.

Will this place implode and I will be forced to go work at a Legacy? Maybe. Maybe I will give up flying altogether at that point. I want an industry leading CBA here as well, but Im not an "idiot" for passing up the biggest hiring wave blah blah blah.