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11-26-2022 | 12:43 PM

#61

rdneckpilot

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Originally Posted by tom11011

No offense dude, but you guys live 60% of your life in 10x30 hotel rooms.

only if you want to

at least not now with the seniority progression.

It’s easy to look at past circumstances and assume nothing has changed.

Im still on probation at mainline and average 18 days at home. I’m also in one of the more senior bases.

I enjoyed Allegiant but am glad I left. Anyone that’s happy there should stay but many of the past reasons for staying don’t exist at the moment.

12-02-2022 | 03:53 PM

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I have a interview at Allegiant, I’ve scanned this thread for awhile. I am a JR FO at a regional airline living in base. Only interested in CVG, IND, or VPS. What’s the current wait on those bases, and approximate reserve time? A little apprehensive to come here with what everyone is saying about how long the new contract could be. I would be taking over a 30k pay cut.

12-02-2022 | 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Captainfit2

3, 4 and 6 pilots waiting for those bases, respectively, so *not* being offered to new hires, and the wait could be 2 months after training or 2 years since each one is so small. It's incredibly hard to say especially as hiring has slowed to a trickle and with each base being so small. Past performance does not indicate future results.We have pilots hired in Dec 21 who can't hold IWA and that base was going to new hires in Summer 21. Be sure to factor the cost of a shared apartment or such into your pay cut as many of our bases don't have crash pads and/or the schedule is too not conducive to one. And yea with management passing regressive language to the union the whole NMB process will likely need to play out which can take years.

12-02-2022 | 05:33 PM

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I second the above if you come here plan on working for a while under the current agreement - as an example the 3 most senior FO’s at a certain base were recently all awarded reserve - Allegiant cheerleaders go ahead and rationalize that one. At least a couple more years of the current CBA also plan financial reserves for eventual possible self-help.If you can afford the first year & want to live in one of the small bases & have the patience to maybe wait up to a year to get it then it could be a fit for those independently wealthy or otherwise not concerned with maximizing earnings/retirement.

12-02-2022 | 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Captainfit2

Probably more then 30k because you will be on reserve and not able to pick anything up. Make sure you calculate $56 an hour at 70 hours. No bonus, No profit sharing, and senior guys all get the 200% pay. VFN. Your better off upgrading and getting that regional CA pay which is better then any FO pay you will ever get at allegiant.

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12-02-2022 | 06:41 PM

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Jetpower

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I recently received an interview invitation (military R-ATP min) and am debating whether or not to proceed as I already have a class date with SkyWest at the end of Dec.

I would love to live in Austin, TX. What’s the likelihood to get AUS out of training? Do you think I should stick with SkyWest waiting for a spot in IAH? My goal is to move back to Texas to be close to our family members.

Thanks!

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12-02-2022 | 06:45 PM

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flydiamond

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Originally Posted by Jetpower

5 pilots waiting to get in for what is only a 15 pilot base. It would prob need to have an additional aircraft added, but that won't happen until there is a new contract that draws new hires in. It really sucks being the last pilot hired which is basically the situation we're in.

12-02-2022 | 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jetpower

First off, thank you for your service.

I think the way to approach your situation is ask yourself, do you HAVE to be based in AUS? If the answer is yes, and you can live with the much lower 1st year pay, live with maybe commuting to Flint or Provo for possibly a year or more while you wait for AUS, and live with the understanding your AUS base might close at any time - come on in and Allegiant is fortunate to have you!

Otherwise - lot’s of airlines with IAH/DFW bases are gonna be falling all over themselves to hire you. Go to Skywest while you figure out which airline to make your career choice.

12-03-2022 | 04:39 AM

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It really sucks being the last pilot hired which is basically the situation we're in.

It really depends. I wouldn't mind being the bottom pilot at a small base. You are the only reserve for 3 flights a day (AM or PM bank that you are legal for). So if none of the 3 pilots in your seat call in sick, you aren't getting used. Even better is once the flights leave, there's no extra airplanes around and you are free. So your reserve is really covering 3 pilots and is only for ~4 hours.

IWA/LAS/FL are different beasts. It's more airline like and being a reserve means you're the reserve covering 15+ flights (plus MX and ferry flights). It's highly likely someone is going to call in sick so you're getting used and due to the schedule there is a constant dribble of flights outside the big pushes.