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Old 11-23-2025 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SladeTin
Lol, the contract isn’t getting done in 2026. I love your optimism though!!
lol…mid to late is what cadets were told….I added after a contract and it’ll be a while because I am NOT optimistic that itll be mid-late 2026.
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Old 11-29-2025 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SladeTin
Lol, the contract isn’t getting done in 2026. I love your optimism though!!
The company slate will get us the fedex flier in a couple weeks.
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Old 11-29-2025 | 09:51 PM
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The company slate will get us the fedex flier in a couple weeks.
all the posturing from the union is useless. Only way the company will believe we are united and demanding what we are owed is by voting down TAs. Only way we can possibly get to a release as well.

Union cannot just continue to okay gatekeepers. They’ve ruined that responsibility that they had. The drama, fraud and criminal activity of Robles and then the strong arm tactics of our emergency trustee has ruined our unity
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Old 11-30-2025 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by pipercub
The company slate will get us the fedex flier in a couple weeks.
Company slate 🤣🤣🤣

Nobody that the company loves more than the current group. 5 years and counting with no end in sight. They love the cheapest labor in the industry!!
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Old 11-30-2025 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SladeTin
Company slate 🤣🤣🤣

Nobody that the company loves more than the current group. 5 years and counting with no end in sight. They love the cheapest labor in the industry!!
^^^^^

this is the dirty secret that Robles never learned: management LOVED him as mob boss because they could run circles around him.

management loves the drama of Unterseher and the never ending trusteeship. They know the people at the table and in the room are puppets for Unterseher’s agenda and do not represent the line pilots. Flight Ops has a way better handle on the typical line pilot than Unterseher, JR or Josh A.
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Old 12-01-2025 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SladeTin
Company slate 🤣🤣🤣

Nobody that the company loves more than the current group. 5 years and counting with no end in sight. They love the cheapest labor in the industry!!
Yep, and in all truth it will not matter which slate the get voted in. The company will continue to slow roll the pilots and blame the next group in charge. Same thing happens every times. So roll tell the just fold at take pay and bottom feeder everything else. Will not change until they need the deal done for something they want or the NMB finally get tired of the crap. Pilots either need to start standing up or walking away or this will be the next 2 to 5 years here.
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Old 12-01-2025 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SladeTin
Company slate 🤣🤣🤣

Nobody that the company loves more than the current group. 5 years and counting with no end in sight. They love the cheapest labor in the industry!!
It’s easy for them to do so with a BK NK.
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Old 12-01-2025 | 07:15 PM
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It’s easy for them to do so with a BK NK.
They should"company" strive to be better than NK. They should work to be better than we are the most profitable airline off the backs of our employees and striped down service to our passengers.
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Old 12-02-2025 | 11:58 AM
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They should"company" strive to be better than NK. They should work to be better than we are the most profitable airline off the backs of our employees and striped down service to our passengers.
allegiant being the most profitable airline might as well have been a another lifetime ago. do you know who else was the top 2-3 most profitable airline in the world back then? NK.

allegiant will never be the most profitable airline by op margin again.
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Old 12-03-2025 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by captnate702
allegiant being the most profitable airline might as well have been a another lifetime ago. do you know who else was the top 2-3 most profitable airline in the world back then? NK.

allegiant will never be the most profitable airline by op margin again.
So that gives them a pass to pay less than market for employees. Yes making 20+ margins maybe in the past but 10+ is still achievable but that would require pushing up utilizing the fleet. You do realize they are choosing to not fly the fleet at 2019 levels? why? The current lower levels of utilization is still providing enough revenue to cover the operation and a small profit or close to break even on slow quarter. Many bases and pilots are flying month after month under min's, we currently have the pilots and the planes why not fly them more and make more? Could it possible be because that would show that there truly is the margins to pay for a pilot contract? All the other carries told their pilot groups these large contracts would break the companies. Guess what it has not most are making more than before. Why? because they are managing their companies to the market and the cost. Managing what a concept, while our current management team seems content to just tread along hoping know one notices. The fastest way for them to destroy this company is to continue to devalue their pilots to a point no one wants to stay, and know one continues to want to come. More than Half the pilots have less than 5 years here, they do not have a large invested amount of time here, and most could make more money almost on day one somewhere else. Will those pilots wait another 2 years? Will they stay if a sub par contract is reached? If Allegiants brightest days are behind it, it is because Management has destroyed any thrust and loyalty of the pilots as a whole. They drove away over 800 pilots in the last hiring round do to lack of hope and respect. How many will be driven away with the continued lack of interest in getting a deal done. I have seen and heard from a lot of pilots that are once again putting applications out and it is again a race between getting a CJO elsewhere or the contract. Unfortunately the CJO will likely come first.
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