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If the rules are programmed in properly then anyone with basic computer skills can do it.
Allegiant doesn't know how to do multi day trips because they don't have the software. You don't need experience cause the software tracks duty hours and flight time and won't let you break any rules.
Any consultant could come set it all up in about 10 days.
this is naive. if it only takes about 10 days to setup a completely different crew management system (aka replace Merlot). yet management has spent years trying to move on from merlot. Originally Posted by climb150
My first job in aviation was scheduling. If the rules are programmed in properly then anyone with basic computer skills can do it.
Allegiant doesn't know how to do multi day trips because they don't have the software. You don't need experience cause the software tracks duty hours and flight time and won't let you break any rules.
Any consultant could come set it all up in about 10 days.
i am pretty sure southwest had the same scheduling software for over thirty years and they just kept putting bandaids on it which eventually led to their epic meltdown Christmas 2022 (sky solver was one of those antique software systems). if you have actually worked in scheduling then you are intentionally being disingenuous to say it takes 10 days to implement the software and then anybody off the street can run an airline operation. just typing that made me want to vomit it is so absurd.
also, just because the software flags the scheduling people when they try to assign an illegal trip, doesn't mean it tells you how/where to cover the assignment from there. if that were case, you wouldn't need schedulers at all because the software would just automatically assign the flying. now that is what every executive is salivating for AI to do someday. But the idea that anybody off the street can run the operation because the scheduling software out there right does it all for you is laughable.
Like saying a the cashier at taco bell can do your taxes because excel does all the math - maybe they could do your taxes but you're gonna be paying the absolute max.
Most of your points are moot. AI really could do it but I don't think the FAA would get on board.
If you have ever used H And R block etc for your taxes? Did you know they aren't accountants? They do about 60 hours of training.
Please don't make out that scheduling is something difficult.
The reason allegiant won't change is because the software is expensive.
If you have ever used H And R block etc for your taxes? Did you know they aren't accountants? They do about 60 hours of training.
Please don't make out that scheduling is something difficult.
The reason allegiant won't change is because the software is expensive.
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If you have ever used H And R block etc for your taxes? Did you know they aren't accountants? They do about 60 hours of training.
Please don't make out that scheduling is something difficult.
The reason allegiant won't change is because the software is expensive.
gotta love when the stereotypes are confirmed: pilot thinks he knows how to run an airline. Originally Posted by climb150
Most of your points are moot. AI really could do it but I don't think the FAA would get on board. If you have ever used H And R block etc for your taxes? Did you know they aren't accountants? They do about 60 hours of training.
Please don't make out that scheduling is something difficult.
The reason allegiant won't change is because the software is expensive.
All management does is tout its controllable completion and how it is best in the industry. well that controllable completion would deteriorate immediately if we started doing primarily multi day trips. you have way more faith in our management team and our ops leadership than i do.
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All management does is tout its controllable completion and how it is best in the industry. well that controllable completion would deteriorate immediately if we started doing primarily multi day trips. you have way more faith in our management team and our ops leadership than i do.
They would have to bring in outside expertise & make substantial investments & improvements to the scheduling & travel departments. Not really the Allegiant m.o. Originally Posted by captnate702
gotta love when the stereotypes are confirmed: pilot thinks he knows how to run an airline.All management does is tout its controllable completion and how it is best in the industry. well that controllable completion would deteriorate immediately if we started doing primarily multi day trips. you have way more faith in our management team and our ops leadership than i do.
maybe its harder to schedule overnights when your first and last day are DHs from one small airport to another, which means you have to uber from small to big airport, fly to big aport, uber to small. or uber the whole way for 50% pay. regular airlines operate out of bigger airports so deadheads are just base to destination without an uber. envoy can fly SRQ to FLL but we get to uber from PIE to FLL (fatiguing) or PIE to TPA fly to FLL and overnight then fly 2-3 days of 4 legs then waste half a day of on the 3/4th day waiting for a 30 min flight at 4 pm to TPA. ought to take advantaage of silver's void and fly pie to FLL routes. im sure spirit will be giving those up soon too.
True so multi day trips would have to start from your home base or it wouldn't make much sense.
Just deadheading people to Florida to do 4 days from PGD isnt a true multi day trip.
Just deadheading people to Florida to do 4 days from PGD isnt a true multi day trip.
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Lol, the contract isn’t getting done in 2026. I love your optimism though!!Originally Posted by DayFlyer
mid to late 2026…. most likely nothing until after new contract is done. gonna be a while
