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11-04-2025 | 06:23 AM
#111
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Regardless of the contract we're going on the road like everyone else. It would be pretty easy for the company to pay us less than everyone else and give us an override for overnights and multi day pairings that brought pay in line with the market. Basically a penalty for a "home every night" violation. They won't agree to that and they've been testing out of base multi days all year 🤔🤔🤔🤔 everyone better dust off their rollaboards
11-04-2025 | 07:39 AM
#112
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Regardless of the contract we're going on the road like everyone else. It would be pretty easy for the company to pay us less than everyone else and give us an override for overnights and multi day pairings that brought pay in line with the market. Basically a penalty for a "home every night" violation. They won't agree to that and they've been testing out of base multi days all year 🤔🤔🤔🤔 everyone better dust off their rollaboards
11-04-2025 | 08:37 AM
#113
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Mark my words, they're going to lock in a below market contract, pull the rug on the home every night model, and when they need more pilots they'll hire flight instructors, RTPs, and visa pilots.
11-04-2025 | 09:57 AM
#114
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They don't want everyone to come here, they want just enough people to come here. We're overstaffed according to the company, we're not growing...imo they're setting up to increase utilization. The only thing the board cares about is the stock price, they can bump that with increased efficiency and it doesn't cost them anything.
Mark my words, they're going to lock in a below market contract, pull the rug on the home every night model, and when they need more pilots they'll hire flight instructors, RTPs, and visa pilots.
Mark my words, they're going to lock in a below market contract, pull the rug on the home every night model, and when they need more pilots they'll hire flight instructors, RTPs, and visa pilots.
scheduling is so amateur and inexperienced that they can barely operate day trips = the easiest airline operation in the world.
no way we become a primary multi day carrier, won’t happen absent a merger.
11-04-2025 | 12:13 PM
#115
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for those of us that have been here a while know, there’s no way in h3ll scheduling could operate a multi day trip pairing operation. We would have epic meltdowns reminiscent of summer ops a decade ago.
scheduling is so amateur and inexperienced that they can barely operate day trips = the easiest airline operation in the world.
no way we become a primary multi day carrier, won’t happen absent a merger.
scheduling is so amateur and inexperienced that they can barely operate day trips = the easiest airline operation in the world.
no way we become a primary multi day carrier, won’t happen absent a merger.
11-04-2025 | 01:07 PM
#116
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All it takes is some software and you can manage anything. Trips are coming and they will replace small bases and stop the open 70 bases to handle the peak flying. If we ever actually grow the growth will likely come via overnights in Northern and midwest cities to pull planes out of the hubs and fly across the system. That's the only way to grow without opening new bases or somehow getting mores space at the florida hubs. The only other option to grow tell the hubs are at capacity(Florida already is) and just maintain as cheap of an operations and run the current status of 100 ish planes.
this is fear mongering and it is buying right into management's strategy of scaring us into overnight trips and "changing the business model" from day trips to 5 day trips.
11-04-2025 | 04:43 PM
#117
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software like Merlot??? you are so ignorant about scheduling it is laughable. there is no way allegiant scheduling dept could handle multi day trips all over the system. our schedulers cannot even keep flight attendant and pilot work rules separate, they are always mixing up legalities, required rest times, etc.
this is fear mongering and it is buying right into management's strategy of scaring us into overnight trips and "changing the business model" from day trips to 5 day trips.
this is fear mongering and it is buying right into management's strategy of scaring us into overnight trips and "changing the business model" from day trips to 5 day trips.
11-05-2025 | 05:00 AM
#119
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Not Fear Mongering, without adding multi-day trips bases that are out of room like most of the florida, will not see any future growth. The company could grow and stay day trips by continuing to open up more and more bases or if room allows grow midwest bases. Once a base has no more room for more aircraft the growth stops unless you keeping planes out in the system someplace else overnight. It would be hard to see much of any growth without them adding a percentage of flying via multi-day.
11-05-2025 | 05:29 AM
#120
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My first job in aviation was scheduling.
If the rules are programmed in properly then anyone with basic computer skills can do it.
Allegiant doesn't know how to do multi day trips because they don't have the software. You don't need experience cause the software tracks duty hours and flight time and won't let you break any rules.
Any consultant could come set it all up in about 10 days.
If the rules are programmed in properly then anyone with basic computer skills can do it.
Allegiant doesn't know how to do multi day trips because they don't have the software. You don't need experience cause the software tracks duty hours and flight time and won't let you break any rules.
Any consultant could come set it all up in about 10 days.
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