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Old 01-19-2015 | 09:24 AM
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And you would know this how exactly? What strike did you take part in? And while we’re at it, what is up with your fascination with g4? Hmm..

Originally Posted by Packrat
If you guys are serious about the things you post, I hope you have at least six months worth of living expenses in your personal strike fund.

But, it's easy to talk tough on the web. I predict the contract you all vote for will be significantly less than legacy norm. And then, you won't find a single pilot who will say they voted for it.

And retro pay? LOL. No me gets retro pay any more. You get "signing bonuses." The last contract I was involved in settled for $15K when full retro would have been over $100K. So, good luck with that.

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Easy to vote, harder to walk. But, at least you sent one message not open to "interpretation."
Old 01-19-2015 | 04:15 PM
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Hey, I'm all for you guys. That said, I'll believe all the tough talk when you actually close this POS excuse for an airline down.
Old 01-19-2015 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Hey, I'm all for you guys. That said, I'll believe all the tough talk when you actually close this POS excuse for an airline down.
You're "all for us"? Really? By constantly questioning our resolve? If this how you show support, do us all a favor and keep it. We couldn't care less what you believe.

Not all of us walked out of the military straight into an established gig at Delta. Thank your lucky stars that first contract was negotiated for you. Sweet, enjoy it, but please, enough with the fatherly counsel, it's condescending and arrogant. We get enough of that crap from our management.

Now if you'll please excuse us, we have a battle to fight. You're silent "support" is appreciated.

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Old 01-19-2015 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tyler durden
You're "all for us"? Really? By constantly questioning our resolve? If this how you show support, do us all a favor and keep it. We couldn't care less what you believe.

Not all of us walked out of the military straight into an established gig at Delta. Thank your lucky stars that first contract was negotiated for you. Sweet, enjoy it, but please, enough with the fatherly counsel, it's condescending and arrogant. We get enough of that crap from our management.

Now if you'll please excuse us, we have a battle to fight. You're silent "support" is appreciated.

Well said. There's a big difference between fighting for a good contract and falling ass backwards into one.
Old 01-19-2015 | 06:39 PM
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Ok, that was a compliment. Sort of. After I pressed for some clarification. You smoothly pivoted away from my question. You seem to be versed in ‘contract’ stuff. Think I’m getting a clearer picture. Hmm..


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Hey, I'm all for you guys. That said, I'll believe all the tough talk when you actually close this POS excuse for an airline down.
Old 01-19-2015 | 11:23 PM
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Packrat is a NetJets pilot. Not Delta.
Old 01-19-2015 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
But, it's easy to talk tough on the web.
you said it all right there
Old 01-20-2015 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Hey, I'm all for you guys. That said, I'll believe all the tough talk when you actually close this POS excuse for an airline down.
It wasn't all too long ago when NetJets didn't have the premier contract it does today. Food for thought. Further, when you call AAY a "POS excuse for an airline" I take a bit of offense as I am part of this carrier and make it what it is... safe and profitable.
As for the "tough talk" I think the latest picketing event made it quite clear that people are willing to put their "money where their mouth is." People could have opted to stay at home with their families etc but instead chose to demonstrate their frustration in a silent but visible manner. We had pilots/flight attendants from numerous carriers join us but not a single fractional pilot. Thanks for your "support" but just like internet tough talk I don't need it or believe it. We can take care of ourselves just fine thank you very much.
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The only one talking tough on the web and not backing it up is you. Again I ask, why are you so obsessed with g4 pilots?

The only people that rate to call this place a POS, are us. If you are at NJ then you have your own battle to fight. Do you see me on your side of the fence, taking random/ignorant pop shots at your unity and resolve.

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Hey, I'm all for you guys. That said, I'll believe all the tough talk when you actually close this POS excuse for an airline down.
Originally Posted by Packrat
Easy to vote, harder to walk. But, at least you sent one message not open to "interpretation."

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Old 01-20-2015 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by biigD
Packrat is a NetJets pilot. Not Delta.
My bad, but the point remains: if Pack is in our corner, few would know it. His constant brow-beating admonitions and pontifications send a mixed signal.
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