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#2711
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Maybe this will help the perspective. Even though I had an 85 hr line for May I was given 2 days of reserve thrown onto my schedule. Today was one. Went on reserve at 430am and of course I got a call at 431. Hey were going to have you take a dead head in a towncar for 3:15 min to operate an 6hr turn and then dh you back via another towncar. Really? Ok. 30 min later, no, we changed our minds your back on reserve, but we might send you to a dif station to operate a dif turn. 30 more min later, yes we are going to have you do the second turn, but there are no towncars. We are going to get you a rental and you have to drive 2 hrs, operate a 7 hour turn and drive back. Get to station and there is a plane swap that takes 1hr to do. Needless to say, it has been a very long day. Any yes, this happens all the time.
#2712
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From: Downward-Facing Dog Pose
FARs require all pilots to have on their person these three documents while they are on duty:
FAA license
Gov't issued ID w/ picture (most folks use their driver's license)
Medical certificate
#2714
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From: Downward-Facing Dog Pose
I'm on your side.
I think it's preposterous that any airline mgmt team can get away with doing this to their pilots.
I think it's preposterous that any airline mgmt team can get away with doing this to their pilots.
#2715
It's more of that "just get the job done" mentality that needs to change around here..
#2716
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When I was TDY'd for many months to SFB they made me do the rental car reserve thing to PIE 4 or 5 times. Every evening when I got back to PIE I called scheduling and told them I was to fatigued to drive back to SFB and to give me a hotel in PIE. To my surprise they did it promptly, took me off my trip for the next day and pay protected me for it. No call ever from a chief pilot and the hotel was provided in 15 minutes or less.
I was TDY'd and didn't care whether I made it back to SFB in that case. I think most guys here have "get-home-idus" and would rather drive home fatigued and sleep in there own beds than be in a hotel. The company knows this and takes advantage of it. I too think if every pilot would start calling in fatigued after a day of 3hr drive followed by a 16 hr duty day followed by a 3 hr drive, that "reserve for the whole state" thing would start to go away.
I was TDY'd and didn't care whether I made it back to SFB in that case. I think most guys here have "get-home-idus" and would rather drive home fatigued and sleep in there own beds than be in a hotel. The company knows this and takes advantage of it. I too think if every pilot would start calling in fatigued after a day of 3hr drive followed by a 16 hr duty day followed by a 3 hr drive, that "reserve for the whole state" thing would start to go away.
#2717
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Joined: Jul 2008
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Your company issued ID, as a FAR regulated carrier, is considered a government ID. That is why you can access a TSA- secure area with it.
#2718
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I was TDY'd and didn't care whether I made it back to SFB in that case. I think most guys here have "get-home-idus" and would rather drive home fatigued and sleep in there own beds than be in a hotel. The company knows this and takes advantage of it. I too think if every pilot would start calling in fatigued after a day of 3hr drive followed by a 16 hr duty day followed by a 3 hr drive, that "reserve for the whole state" thing would start to go away.
However, let's take fatigue out of the equation. The simple act of driving yourself and others on company time opens one up to crushing liability should an accident occur. It doesn't even have to be your fault. Do you think the company is going to spend resources defending your personal assets from bloodthirsty ambulance chasers?
#2719
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Thats definitely the way to go, if they will get you a cab/taxi/etc. Also (unless they have gotten better) it used to be almost impossible to get reimbursed for gas for the rentals.
#2720
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This is very true and an ugly byproduct of the pilots conditioned to being "home every night". Pack a bag, tell your significant other that you'll be home tomorrow, and let the chips fall where they may.
However, let's take fatigue out of the equation. The simple act of driving yourself and others on company time opens one up to crushing liability should an accident occur. It doesn't even have to be your fault. Do you think the company is going to spend resources defending your personal assets from bloodthirsty ambulance chasers?
However, let's take fatigue out of the equation. The simple act of driving yourself and others on company time opens one up to crushing liability should an accident occur. It doesn't even have to be your fault. Do you think the company is going to spend resources defending your personal assets from bloodthirsty ambulance chasers?
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