Not sure about that one, but I know at least one of the off-the-street instructors they hired failed.

I wouldn't put the majority of blame on the training dept for the 80 and bus failures as they have been dealing with a fed who has something to prove. Is it all his fault though? Nope.

 

No I think he was referring to the gentleman with a spotless record and several type ratings that came here after his airline ceased operations and failed his type because he forgot to confirm the external power was disconnected during his ride.

While several failures are not the company's fault directly the backlash of pilot failures from the FAA due to Allegiant's steadfast refusal to follow FAA suggestions is.

 

G4er-

We are our own worst enemy, aren't we?

 

Sounds like your CEO regards the airline as his personal cash machine.

 

I guess I should not have listened to all that stuff from the flight attendants. Lol. I'll never learn

Not everything is managements fault, but a lot of it is and it boils down to cost containment. Training doesn't help the profit/loss ratio and therefore gets marginalized.

In the interest of avoiding half truths, here are a few facts.

Fact: In the last six months alone there have been 2 new hire pilots terminated during Airbus training. One more is pending termination, which would make 3. We could debate the circumstances surrounding those, but the facts remain, they are now gone. There are many more who have busted rides and been retrained. Not healthy for your resume. That is just Airbus and guys I am aware of, there might be more. I'm not affiliated with the training department, and being back East, I get limited information on the other fleet types.


Fact: AQP has been on the back burner for eight years and the individual hired to bring AQP online has been moved to oversee the development of the ADAP software video training program, designed to eliminate cost by reducing the amount of time spent in ground school. $$ generator.

Fact: the training department has been shut down by the FAA

Fact: the MD-80 Systems ground school was reduced to five days total. Training management stood by and allowed the accountants to make this decision to save money on hotels. Our new hires paid the price and only after failed orals was the decision reversed and only because the failures were costing the company more money.

Fact: our simulators have been outsourced to Pan Am virtually since Allegiant moved to Las Vegas. It goes without saying that it doesn't get any worse in terms of quality and reliability. Cost was a known driver that negatively affected our training.

Fact: many of our in-house instructors were replaced by contract instructors to save money. Some were good, some were terrible, but in both cases they were trained by the company and turnover has been very high. Poor standardization and knowledge has been an issue and the quality of our training has suffered.

Training is a cost, not a revenue-generator, which means it will be treated like everything else to meet at the bare minimum standard. Our pilots pay the price while cost savings accumulate and the investor profits.

 

Until...

Anyone want to talk about a certain xxxNV (MD80) that had a primary trim overheat 'ops checked good' some 7 or 8 times before 'those damn pilots' sent an ASAP?

Story I was told was that 'that damn company' thought 'those damn pilots' were up to some sort of no good job action, so they brought 'that damn plane' up to LAS and on flight #1 realized something was 'really f'ing wrong' with 'that damn plane' and proved once again that fate is indeed the hunter at Allegiant.

Did this really happen?

 

Pretty much.

 

Heard that every plane in PIE was AOG for some time...lots of cancellations!! :0
There's an 80 that's been a fixture in XNA for nearly a week, too. Two air returns.

 

Just checked and all flights from PIE for both today (Monday) and yesterday (Sunday) were completed. I didn't see any cancellations. Not sure where you got that info from. I'm a west coast guy, so I don't know anything about whether there is an 80 in XNA.

 

Try checking the return flights INTO PIE.....