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Old 09-03-2015 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by goirishgo1976
Hello APC,
Just received a call from Allegiant for a phone interview. Any info that I need to know. Thanks!
Just tell allegiant management that when you're a captain in PIE, that you will not base a decision to emergency evacuate on the safety of the passengers. Instead you will do so based on any possible negative media attention, as that would negatively impact the short term stock price. Thereby decreasing allegiant management's bonus schedule for that quarter.

I believe that's what Mav(Stevie H.) and Bingo-Baden will expect of you. They tell you safety is the ideal, but whisper in the other ear, "But don't cost us money.."
Old 09-03-2015 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Laramie
Tell us all the story of the Valujet crash and how it compares to Allegiant.

It's not the crash that he's talking about. It's the lead up to what caused the crash. Re-read the thread to get a better understanding of what people are saying.
Old 09-03-2015 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Laramie
Tell us all the story of the Valujet crash and how it compares to Allegiant.
It starts with having a CEO that started ValuJet. His refusal to put money into maintaining the airplanes and giving crews minimal training. There is a lack of investment into the safety culture here which was identical to what it was at ValuJet. Cheap contract maintenance constantly making huge mistakes is identical to ValuJet. An abnormally high rate of declared emergencies is identical to ValuJet. The only thing that G4 hasn't done is lost an airplane. Safety is a numbers game. When things that are supposed to happen very rarely are happening on a semi normal basis the odds of something catastrophic occurring become very high. Do a Wikipedia search and read the history of ValuJet before the crash. You'll be shocked at the similarities.
Old 09-03-2015 | 10:45 AM
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When did you apply? Qualifications?
Old 09-03-2015 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ValuGiant
It starts with having a CEO that started ValuJet. His refusal to put money into maintaining the airplanes and giving crews minimal training. There is a lack of investment into the safety culture here which was identical to what it was at ValuJet. Cheap contract maintenance constantly making huge mistakes is identical to ValuJet. An abnormally high rate of declared emergencies is identical to ValuJet. The only thing that G4 hasn't done is lost an airplane. Safety is a numbers game. When things that are supposed to happen very rarely are happening on a semi normal basis the odds of something catastrophic occurring become very high. Do a Wikipedia search and read the history of ValuJet before the crash. You'll be shocked at the similarities.
This is the story all at Allegiant need to get on board with and not stop talking about. The best contract in the world will not fix these maintenance issues.
Old 09-03-2015 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
This is the story all at Allegiant need to get on board with and not stop talking about. The best contract in the world will not fix these maintenance issues.
Exactly, where the #$%% is your union that was supposedly put in place? I haven't seen nary the press release about the dismissed Captain, or bringing light to the excessive MX problems? Heck, the local press is doing more to highlight ALG to the public than the union!
Old 09-03-2015 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyingthomas
When did you apply? Qualifications?
Applied several months ago. 3100 hours, 1400 PIC.
Old 09-03-2015 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by goirishgo1976
Applied several months ago. 3100 hours, 1400 PIC.
Just wait a few more months till you get a little more time. With 4000 you can go anywhere.
Old 09-03-2015 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
Exactly, where the #$%% is your union that was supposedly put in place? I haven't seen nary the press release about the dismissed Captain, or bringing light to the excessive MX problems? Heck, the local press is doing more to highlight ALG to the public than the union!
The Union has sent out press releases, brought the issues up to the FAA and nothing is being done. The FAA watching over G4 does absolutely zero to hold them accountable for what they do. It's corrupt on all different levels.
Old 09-04-2015 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Laramie
Tell us all the story of the Valujet crash and how it compares to Allegiant.
The story of ValuJet has been documented and told lots of places, you can do a google search and find all the info you want. As for comparison to AAY it has to do with cutting corners as much as possible on maintenance and operations, in order to maximize profits. Both airlines had/have the same CEO and he follows the same business methods for each. Anyone on his management team not going along with his methods is gotten rid of. That is the most compelling part, people don't change their way of doing things unless outside forces cause them to. Especially when it has to do with money. With some people greed will top all other considerations and that's what they have at AAY upper management.

AAY has been very profitable for several years. Even if AAY shutdown tomorrow the CEO would be financially well-off for the rest of his life, yet he isn't going to spend more than he marginally has to on the business, even if it would improve safety, working conditions for employees, moral, a better customer experience, etc. He doesn't quantify safety costs like he does fuel, equipment leases, etc. Safety expenditures are done similar to personnel costs - lowest possible cost, doesn't see any reason to spend more in those areas. All businesses want to control costs, but there is a point where it negatively affects things. He probably talks to his corporate and personal lawyers more than his business advisers.

anyway, that's my opinion.

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