Allegiant Air
#3941
you are not hired into any equipment, you are hired as a First Officer your seniority within your class is set by who is the oldest and so on. Then you bid based on that seniority for the openings at that time. Could be a mix or only one aircraft available at that time. All on company need at the time. Pay is 41 an hour 70 hours. I believe in ground school you are still responsible from your own living arrangements
#3942
you are not hired into any equipment, you are hired as a First Officer your seniority within your class is set by who is the oldest and so on. Then you bid based on that seniority for the openings at that time. Could be a mix or only one aircraft available at that time. All on company need at the time. Pay is 41 an hour 70 hours. I believe in ground school you are still responsible from your own living arrangements
#3943
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Joined APC: Jan 2010
Position: MD80
Posts: 188
Also consider Allegiant maintenance is like everything else cheap and subpar profits first safety, sometimes a close second. Reference Allegiant Air flt#436, 8/17/15 LAS to PIA; Our stellar understaffed maintenance department in LAS subcontracted a maintenance inspection; they forgot to ensure a cotter pin was installed properly in the tail assembly of that aircraft, oops.
An operational dispatch department that is still in the part 135 world. Reference our current and soon to be fired, oops I mean resignated VP of ops Bingo-baden. Captain-Bingo alongside our director of safety were dispatched to a closed airport, our now infamous Fargo ND flight. Which disrupted a blue angels rehearsal due to their erroneous/false emergency declaration. Notams, dispatch; Pilots missed it.
So, when you get that fast upgrade, you are playing goalie catching all department failures and criminality, in the end you get hanged. Allegiant maintenance skillfully conned an airbus crew into ferrying with pax on board having one of the hydraulic systems mel’d. Reference our PIE captain who was terminated for emergency evacuating his airplane for reported smoke emanating from his plane. No support, guilty until proven innocent for all incidents inquiry. Allegiant management likes to call these interrogations “Safety Debriefings”. Very little recourse for any discipline; no contract, no arbitration.
An operational dispatch department that is still in the part 135 world. Reference our current and soon to be fired, oops I mean resignated VP of ops Bingo-baden. Captain-Bingo alongside our director of safety were dispatched to a closed airport, our now infamous Fargo ND flight. Which disrupted a blue angels rehearsal due to their erroneous/false emergency declaration. Notams, dispatch; Pilots missed it.
So, when you get that fast upgrade, you are playing goalie catching all department failures and criminality, in the end you get hanged. Allegiant maintenance skillfully conned an airbus crew into ferrying with pax on board having one of the hydraulic systems mel’d. Reference our PIE captain who was terminated for emergency evacuating his airplane for reported smoke emanating from his plane. No support, guilty until proven innocent for all incidents inquiry. Allegiant management likes to call these interrogations “Safety Debriefings”. Very little recourse for any discipline; no contract, no arbitration.
#3944
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Joined APC: Aug 2011
Position: Hoping for any position
Posts: 2,507
Training pay is min gauruntee until hitting the line. Take home pay is about $1200 every 2 weeks with no deductions other than taxes taken out. Insurance sucks bad, no other way to describe it. Fortunately I don't need it but for a family it's worthless. I believe it's about $300 a month for the lowest dedipuctible plan which is still $3500 per year. The HSA isn't a bad deal since they match a lot of your contribution.
Don't come here if you're not open to living in base on any of the equipment. This includes the VBD base on the -80. That has the fastest upgrade historically of less then or right at a year but you will spend all of your time TDY. Some use this to their advantage as a lot of the VBD TDYs are to Florida so if you are within a reasonable driving distance to some of the bases in Florida you can be "TDY" while living at home collecting 50% of what the company will pay towards a hotel on top of your pay. Understand the training departments for each aircraft are completely different and run completely different. That adds some additional unnecessary frustration.
Also plan for only 2 days off together at any given time but being junior will mean Tuesday, Wednesday and Saturdsys off and nothing more than.
This place has some serious problems but has some serious potential. There are a lot of guys on the fence ready to jump to one side or another based on the result or lack of a contract, myself included.
If you come here understanding the intricacies of this business model and no contract you will be better off. Good luck!
#3945
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: Airbus CA
Posts: 915
Just making sure I get the story straight.
#3946
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Joined APC: Jan 2010
Position: MD80
Posts: 188
An astounding claim & mind-boggling if it really ocurred. You're saying one entire system - G/B/Y - was down, or just one component? 'Cause you can't mel an entire hydraulic system. They had to get a ferry permit, or they just operated a leg as a ferry flight? And they did so with paying pax in the back?
Just making sure I get the story straight.
Just making sure I get the story straight.
How does MX Control (I agree they suck) con a crew into taking an airplane that is not airworthy? Simple answer.... they don't.
#3947
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: Airbus CA
Posts: 915
Thing is sooner or later this kind of thing is gonna get somebody a visit from Allegiant Legal. I've seen it happen, different airline, similar circumstances.
We should hold ourselves to the same standards of accuracy, integrity, & honesty that we expect (and at times don't get) from the company. Admittedly difficult & frustrating at times but nevertheless.....
We should hold ourselves to the same standards of accuracy, integrity, & honesty that we expect (and at times don't get) from the company. Admittedly difficult & frustrating at times but nevertheless.....
#3949
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Da Bus
Posts: 481
Thing is sooner or later this kind of thing is gonna get somebody a visit from Allegiant Legal. I've seen it happen, different airline, similar circumstances.
We should hold ourselves to the same standards of accuracy, integrity, & honesty that we expect (and at times don't get) from the company. Admittedly difficult & frustrating at times but nevertheless.....
We should hold ourselves to the same standards of accuracy, integrity, & honesty that we expect (and at times don't get) from the company. Admittedly difficult & frustrating at times but nevertheless.....
#3950
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 136
I don’t care who you are. I will continue to post semi-proprietary little tidbits as I see fit, at times of my choosing. Facts or not. I’ll leave that to the press, faa or ntsb to investigate and uncover our dirty little secrets. Like cotter pins negligently left improperly installed(Flt.436), or MOC signing off on hydraulic systems mel’d. So on and so forth.
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