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Old 01-21-2014 | 08:53 AM
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The key part of your analysis is "pervasive and personal and hits even the most senior, heavily insulated and pampered pilot."

My experience with 3 decades in the industry is pilots will put up with a lot but when you start messing with seniority a tipping point is soon reached. The results are normally not in the best interests of employees, management, passengers, or shareholders. Again, just what I've observed in the past.

Hope somebody there's paying attention....

Originally Posted by dawgdriver
Our preferential bidding system is merely a reflection of what has increasingly become the norm for AAY crews in recent years. This is nothing new. The difference is that, like Obamacare, it no longer affects 'the other (junior) guy'. It's pervasive and personal and hits even the most senior, heavily insulated and pampered pilot. What's truly stunning is the company email from management's anonymous 'Merlot Team' (who is that??) that insinuates all is well with the Feb bid. It paints a disturbing picture of just how far out of touch the new Allegiant management 'Team' really is. This was a VERY promising company just 4 years ago. The continuing erosion and demise is a testament to the sheer devastation that can occur with short-sighted, incompetent and arrogant management. While the stock continues to trade at all time high levels, the execs are partying on the Lido Deck….of the Titanic. In their drunken stupor they've failed to notice the life boats slowly disappearing, occupied by the employees abandoning ship.

What Wall Street seems to be missing is the fact that these gravity-defying profits are a result of under-funding and under-staffing the operation. Crews have virtually zero support from overwhelmed agencies such as dispatch, scheduling, IT, maintenance control, training, etc. Middle management is no help as they ignore us or blame us for the problems. Lately we have suffered one disaster after another: fleet shutdowns, training department shutdowns, simulator shutdowns, massive delays (blamed on crew sick calls), extreme sub servicing, software nightmares, etc.

As the saying goes, "pigs get fed, hogs get slaughtered". Drink up.
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Old 01-21-2014 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CATIII
Jand there's A LOT we can get based on what DAL,UAL,AA, and others have since we raised the bar in 2010! I for one don't expect another industry leading contract, but I want to be among our peers in terms of pay and workrules..
What am I missing?
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Old 01-21-2014 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
What am I missing?


Probably missing the fact that CATIII doesn't work at allegiant.
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Old 01-23-2014 | 10:23 AM
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Since so many street captains have been hired in the last couple of years, why is anyone surprised that the new PBS ignores seniority? It just seems to fit right in with the trend.

All of the open time got farmed out to subservice, and the cost of subservice will probably drive down the pay bands for the pilots, but I'm sure that's all just the government shutdown and FAA's fault.
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Old 01-23-2014 | 12:47 PM
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I heard the new hires are being introduced to the phrase of the day: “You need to be flexible.”.
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Old 01-23-2014 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Wurmy
Since so many street captains have been hired in the last couple of years, why is anyone surprised that the new PBS ignores seniority? It just seems to fit right in with the trend.

All of the open time got farmed out to subservice, and the cost of subservice will probably drive down the pay bands for the pilots, but I'm sure that's all just the government shutdown and FAA's fault.
No street captains at Allegiant. Everything else you wrote is correct though.
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Old 01-23-2014 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CLMP
No street captains at Allegiant. Everything else you wrote is correct though.
My bad. I meant street Check Airmen on the Airbus and many out of seniority upgrades.
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Old 01-24-2014 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Wurmy
My bad. I meant street Check Airmen on the Airbus and many out of seniority upgrades.
Yep! Good times around here.
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Old 01-24-2014 | 06:13 PM
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There are a lot of street captains. Check the bottom of the seniority list. I don't know if they fly much thought, at least right now.
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Old 01-26-2014 | 12:42 PM
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Street captains, street check airmen, out of seniority upgrades, a PBS that does not take seniority into account, displacements back to the 80 out of seniority....I feel like there's a trend here, but I just can't put my finger on what it is.
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