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Old 11-02-2020 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by trvsmrtn
I think this is a little more likely, except for the last part. If Biden wins, I think the worst thing you’ll see is a national mask mandate. The President has virtually nothing to do with shutting down the economy. He may have some influence, but that’s a state and local issue
On what authority do you do a national mask mandate? Martial Law?
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Old 11-02-2020 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
On what authority do you do a national mask mandate? Martial Law?
Nothing so drastic. It would be done much the way that the states and local governments do it now, put the mandate in place and police have the authority to issue civil infractions if necessary. The mask mandate isn’t about forcing people to wear masks, it’s more about giving support to businesses, schools or any area where people congregate if those places want to require masks. There will still be many people who don’t wear the masks because they think it’s all fake, or they think they’re bulletproof, or they think it is a violation of their civil liberties, and that’s fine, but when businesses and schools are able to bar them from entry with the backing of an executive order, then it will hopefully keep more people safe.
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Old 11-02-2020 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by trvsmrtn
Nothing so drastic. It would be done much the way that the states and local governments do it now, put the mandate in place and police have the authority to issue civil infractions if necessary. The mask mandate isn’t about forcing people to wear masks, it’s more about giving support to businesses, schools or any area where people congregate if those places want to require masks. There will still be many people who don’t wear the masks because they think it’s all fake, or they think they’re bulletproof, or they think it is a violation of their civil liberties, and that’s fine, but when businesses and schools are able to bar them from entry with the backing of an executive order, then it will hopefully keep more people safe.
So Congress would pass a bill that the President signs? Or Executive Orders? Or a violation of a federal regulation (like FARs)? Serious question, just trying to figure out how it works. How do you appeal?
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Old 11-02-2020 | 11:47 AM
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New research shows a 2% difference in communities using masks vs those that don’t.
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Old 11-02-2020 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
So Congress would pass a bill that the President signs? Or Executive Orders? Or a violation of a federal regulation (like FARs)? Serious question, just trying to figure out how it works. How do you appeal?
This is all just my opinion, but I think it would be done through an executive order, but it would be more symbolic and advisory because you would still be facing the issue of states rights.

Or, they (either Congress or POTUS) could also use something like federal highway money to basically extort states into compliance, similar to how the feds have used it to force states to make 21 the legal drinking age.

As far as how you appeal, I would guess it depends on how it’s done. To be honest, if a business like Walmart wants to bar you from entry for not wearing a mask, that’s their right, and they shouldn’t need the backing of an executive order to do it.
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Old 11-02-2020 | 12:04 PM
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New research shows a 2% difference in communities using masks vs those that don’t.
Do you have a link to this research?
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Old 11-02-2020 | 12:11 PM
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Was in Wall St Journal last week. I’ll dig around.
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Old 11-02-2020 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by trvsmrtn
Do you have a link to this research?

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10...aff.2020.00818

Saw the 2% quoted in an article somewhere but I think this is the study they’re referencing.

Businesses are already able to restrict access to anyone they deem fit (ie airlines). No federal mask mandate necessary for that.
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Old 11-02-2020 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by GoFaster
https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10...aff.2020.00818

Saw the 2% quoted in an article somewhere but I think this is the study they’re referencing.

Businesses are already able to restrict access to anyone they deem fit (ie airlines). No federal mask mandate necessary for that.
Like I said, it could be more of a symbolic, advisory gesture to further encourage the use of masks in all public places, or they could try to force states to require masks in all public places. This is all just speculation on my part. My point in all of it is that I think a mask mandate would be the most extreme measure you would see regarding stopping the spread from Biden.

My comment regarding businesses was about to segue to something else, but I decided to just leave it.
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Old 11-02-2020 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by trvsmrtn
Like I said, it could be more of a symbolic, advisory gesture to further encourage the use of masks in all public places, or they could try to force states to require masks in all public places. This is all just speculation on my part. My point in all of it is that I think a mask mandate would be the most extreme measure you would see regarding stopping the spread from Biden.

My comment regarding businesses was about to segue to something else, but I decided to just leave it.
Aren't states doing all that now?
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