Avg Calendar Day, LOS approved
#121
Where’s the link to the conference call audio?
#123
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He’s my hero. It’s going to open up APA for lawsuits, that’s for sure. How the union favors its own furloughed pilots over US Airways East and TWA Pilots. Oh, now that the Company is giving every employee 1000 dollars does the BOD have to approve it like they did with the profit sharing?
#124
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I keep looking at all the data. Most of the things the company is using as leverage, they seem to do already. We can say no, and stay at status quo. Or we can vote yes and at least move forward to increasing our QOL. Call it myopia, but I feel we need to heavily consider this one. Negotiations are not too far away for our next contract, we may be able to do what another post said a few days/week ago and "test drive" this for our section 6.
Being as it may, I have learned quite a bit from all y'alls thoughts and posts. Hope we all have a wonderful 2018. Cheers.
Being as it may, I have learned quite a bit from all y'alls thoughts and posts. Hope we all have a wonderful 2018. Cheers.
Test drive for section 6, huh. Is that the way you see it? Like buying a car or a house??
Buy a lemon or a lark.....but DON'T buy the best. You get what you negotiate. And you keep buying LEMONS! HA HA HA!!!
#125
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Thats the spirit!!! Increasing our "QOL". You mean YOUR quality of life. Your probably one of the furloughed pilots. All the while the LAA furloughed pilots get SPECIAL TREATMENT at our expense.
Test drive for section 6, huh. Is that the way you see it? Like buying a car or a house??
Buy a lemon or a lark.....but DON'T buy the best. You get what you negotiate. And you keep buying LEMONS! HA HA HA!!!
Test drive for section 6, huh. Is that the way you see it? Like buying a car or a house??
Buy a lemon or a lark.....but DON'T buy the best. You get what you negotiate. And you keep buying LEMONS! HA HA HA!!!
#126
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Why are we even voting yet? Wait until there’s actual final language, evaluate, and then vote.
I just don’t see Rush with Retro on LOS and ACD up to a 9 months away (at least, if ever implemented)
We sit on here and rail about vagueness, language, and items never being implemented. What changes here? They get scheduling stuff immediately and we wait again not really knowing what we signed.
Most of tele-meeting was FUD but this was valid point.
Hard to say yes or no without details.
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Why are we even voting yet? Wait until there’s actual final language, evaluate, and then vote.
I just don’t see Rush with Retro on LOS and ACD up to a 9 months away (at least, if ever implemented)
We sit on here and rail about vagueness, language, and items never being implemented. What changes here? They get scheduling stuff immediately and we wait again not really knowing what we signed.
Most of tele-meeting was FUD but this was valid point.
Hard to say yes or no without details.
I just don’t see Rush with Retro on LOS and ACD up to a 9 months away (at least, if ever implemented)
We sit on here and rail about vagueness, language, and items never being implemented. What changes here? They get scheduling stuff immediately and we wait again not really knowing what we signed.
Most of tele-meeting was FUD but this was valid point.
Hard to say yes or no without details.
#128
Electronic notification was agreed to in the JCBA. We’ve been waiting for the implementation. The present system is just crazy, it’s time to join the Internet age.
LOS will be great for the guys that took a hit in the 2000s, especially the TWA guys. They got hammered twice, they could use a win. The MidAtlantic guys lost all of their arbitrations, they were never mainline, they should not be the reason PHL votes no.
Slash trips are just ridiculous. There’s no way a major airline contract should have this in place. Fixing it now means not expending negotiating capital in section 6.
I’m not going to float next year. I want my vacation. If we don’t float we put pressure on the company going into section 6 in 2019. A 4 month hit on implementing min day is worth the angst scheduling will go through next summer. But that’s just my view, since the union is silent on this we need to determine our individual preferences here.
LOS will be great for the guys that took a hit in the 2000s, especially the TWA guys. They got hammered twice, they could use a win. The MidAtlantic guys lost all of their arbitrations, they were never mainline, they should not be the reason PHL votes no.
Slash trips are just ridiculous. There’s no way a major airline contract should have this in place. Fixing it now means not expending negotiating capital in section 6.
I’m not going to float next year. I want my vacation. If we don’t float we put pressure on the company going into section 6 in 2019. A 4 month hit on implementing min day is worth the angst scheduling will go through next summer. But that’s just my view, since the union is silent on this we need to determine our individual preferences here.
#130
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Vote postponed til 1/16. More enhancements coming... LTD fixes maybe? I still think they will vote it in.
“After discussion and debate, the board approved a motion delaying a vote on the settlement agreement until Jan. 16 “for purposes of providing time for the association and company negotiators to fully ‘benchmark’ Attachment 3: ‘Current Process of Filling of Open Time’ and to narrow the scope of settlement terms covering Presidential Grievances.”
“After discussion and debate, the board approved a motion delaying a vote on the settlement agreement until Jan. 16 “for purposes of providing time for the association and company negotiators to fully ‘benchmark’ Attachment 3: ‘Current Process of Filling of Open Time’ and to narrow the scope of settlement terms covering Presidential Grievances.”
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