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12-31-2017, 04:11 AM
#81
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Originally Posted by sumwherelse
That’s not true I don’t believe. There was at least one third lister who ran in philly and was obliterated.
12-31-2017, 07:31 AM
#82
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF
These two things don’t really pertain to me. I was never furloughed and am senior enough in my seat to avoid the slash trips. But it still baffles me these guys want to shoot it down for no good reason.
Even Group 4 captains have a ton of trips which pay less than 5:15 per day. I don't want to be a 320 or 777 CA with 12 days off per month.
Those idiots in CLT and PHL need to go. It would be awesome if someone started a recall effort before the vote. We need to send a clear message that the secrecy, FUD, incoherent base blasts, and dirty politics have no place in our union. You don't see the same incompetent BS at Delta or United. It would be a comical side show if it wasn't costing us money and time away from our families.
12-31-2017, 07:36 AM
#83
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Originally Posted by Laker24
I used to agree with that. But then I found out how prevalent these low credit trips are in the AA system. Unless you want to remain FO or group 1 CA for life the 5:15 is going to have a big impact on your career.
Even Group 4 captains have a ton of trips which pay less than 5:15 per day. I don't want to be a 320 or 777 CA with 12 days off per month.
Even Group 4 captains have a ton of trips which pay less than 5:15 per day. I don't want to be a 320 or 777 CA with 12 days off per month.
Every other legacy has pretty much those exact rigs, and they don't have awful schedules with no movement.
How would 5:15 ruin everything?
12-31-2017, 07:39 AM
#84
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I am for 5:15. Mainline was saying slash trips don't affect him through seniority. Slash trips and trips paying less than 5:15 will affect everybody at AA over the course of a career. AA pilots work more days for less money.
Even senior FOs need 5:15 because after they upgrade they will become junior CAs. Pilots flying Europe need 5:15. Hawaii needs it. South America. Etc etc.
Even senior FOs need 5:15 because after they upgrade they will become junior CAs. Pilots flying Europe need 5:15. Hawaii needs it. South America. Etc etc.
12-31-2017, 08:16 AM
#85
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Originally Posted by Laker24
I used to agree with that. But then I found out how prevalent these low credit trips are in the AA system. Unless you want to remain FO or group 1 CA for life the 5:15 is going to have a big impact on your career.
Even Group 4 captains have a ton of trips which pay less than 5:15 per day. I don't want to be a 320 or 777 CA with 12 days off per month.
Those idiots in CLT and PHL need to go. It would be awesome if someone started a recall effort before the vote. We need to send a clear message that the secrecy, FUD, incoherent base blasts, and dirty politics have no place in our union. You don't see the same incompetent BS at Delta or United. It would be a comical side show if it wasn't costing us money and time away from our families.
Even Group 4 captains have a ton of trips which pay less than 5:15 per day. I don't want to be a 320 or 777 CA with 12 days off per month.
Those idiots in CLT and PHL need to go. It would be awesome if someone started a recall effort before the vote. We need to send a clear message that the secrecy, FUD, incoherent base blasts, and dirty politics have no place in our union. You don't see the same incompetent BS at Delta or United. It would be a comical side show if it wasn't costing us money and time away from our families.
12-31-2017, 09:19 AM
#86
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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer
That was two elections ago. Last election, both PHL and CLT ran completely unopposed. There was another person running for Vice in PHL, but he withdrew and went another direction. Bob and Ron and have run unopposed, though for AT LEAST 2 election cycles.
12-31-2017, 09:52 AM
#87
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Originally Posted by Laker24
I am for 5:15. Mainline was saying slash trips don't affect him through seniority. Slash trips and trips paying less than 5:15 will affect everybody at AA over the course of a career. AA pilots work more days for less money.
Even senior FOs need 5:15 because after they upgrade they will become junior CAs. Pilots flying Europe need 5:15. Hawaii needs it. South America. Etc etc.
Even senior FOs need 5:15 because after they upgrade they will become junior CAs. Pilots flying Europe need 5:15. Hawaii needs it. South America. Etc etc.
I was actually going to mention something about how ACD affects everyone at the airline even if you don’t currently fly slash trips. But I got lazy. So I’m 100% with you that even though I don’t fly them i will when i go to group 2 captain.
A lot of people on c&r keep talking about how bad the trips will be if we get ACD. It’s laughable. Even when I have a regular non slash trip I’ll fly some trips that just have one leg day one or one leg day 4 even though we’re crediting 5:10 average duty day.
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