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Old 12-30-2017, 08:29 AM
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Old 12-30-2017, 08:32 AM
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This is going to pass.
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When is the vote?
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This is going to pass.


What do you base that on?
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Old 12-30-2017, 09:04 AM
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Both PHL reps are a solid no. Unbelievable.
It's the ex USAPA true believers. Probably the most political, ineffective, and belligerent union ever. They feed off hype and scare tactics. If I was based in Phil I would start organizing a recall today. Get those old stick in the mud types out of there. They would turn down a free $50 bill because they 'deserve' $100.
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It's the ex USAPA true believers. Probably the most political, ineffective, and belligerent union ever. They feed off hype and scare tactics. If I was based in Phil I would start organizing a recall today. Get those old stick in the mud types out of there. They would turn down a free $50 bill because they 'deserve' $100.


This reminds me of the JCBA negotiations. The reason we don’t have ACD in the first place is because the union reached wayyyy too far after they almost had a deal with the company. Glass/Parker stopped negotiating and said take it or leave it.

We were bound by the MOU which called for cost neutral arbitration and then at the last minute the union said we want DL Profit sharing, 321s in group 3, a Long rate rig, and other things. Dougie and the boys laughed.
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Old 12-30-2017, 09:21 AM
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What do you base that on?
Tribal knowledge.
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Old 12-30-2017, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF View Post
This reminds me of the JCBA negotiations. The reason we don’t have ACD in the first place is because the union reached wayyyy too far after they almost had a deal with the company. Glass/Parker stopped negotiating and said take it or leave it.

We were bound by the MOU which called for cost neutral arbitration and then at the last minute the union said we want DL Profit sharing, 321s in group 3, a Long rate rig, and other things. Dougie and the boys laughed.
That sounds right. Aren't you a CA in PHL? You should start a recall of those guys! I think you just need %50 +1 to vote them out.
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Old 12-30-2017, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Laker24 View Post
It's the ex USAPA true believers. Probably the most political, ineffective, and belligerent union ever. They feed off hype and scare tactics. If I was based in Phil I would start organizing a recall today. Get those old stick in the mud types out of there. They would turn down a free $50 bill because they 'deserve' $100.
Is there any chance they have some valid issues with the agreement?

I too think it will ultimately pass.
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Old 12-30-2017, 12:00 PM
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That sounds right. Aren't you a CA in PHL? You should start a recall of those guys! I think you just need %50 +1 to vote them out.
I don't think the RJ gets a lot of respect in that regard .

There must be something with this that they would vote no. It would be like voting no on the 8% raise or profit sharing. Personally I think waiting for more info is needed. There may be a huge concern if this many are voting against it.
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