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Old 08-08-2020 | 01:58 PM
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The union reps are on BTL crying about how the 2500 should be grateful the NC got “options”. Funny thing about that, is they just gave the company more options to furlough more without any cost to them. These union guys are so far out in left field it’s amazing. Oh, you got 6 month recall out of it? That’s a concession. Allowing the bid to open without the published estimates? Concession. Furlough out of seniority? Concession. Allowing the bid to be run in 6 days? Concession.

But, it’s all voluntary they say. Yeah, everyone thinks their baby is the cutest. These babies the union just had tho, have hooves and horns. Yet they get all offended if you point it out to them.
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Old 08-08-2020 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rcflying53
The union reps are on BTL crying about how the 2500 should be grateful the NC got “options”. Funny thing about that, is they just gave the company more options to furlough more without any cost to them. These union guys are so far out in left field it’s amazing. Oh, you got 6 month recall out of it? That’s a concession. Allowing the bid to open without the published estimates? Concession. Furlough out of seniority? Concession. Allowing the bid to be run in 6 days? Concession.

But, it’s all voluntary they say. Yeah, everyone thinks their baby is the cutest. These babies the union just had tho, have hooves and horns. Yet they get all offended if you point it out to them.
It’s called a faun!
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Old 08-08-2020 | 04:34 PM
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So the company wants 3105 pilots gone? Is that what scared the crap out of the APA?

Can’t figure out the numbers in the last email.

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Old 08-08-2020 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by biigD
So the company wants 3105 pilots gone? Is that what scared the crap out of the APA?

Can’t figure out the numbers in the last email.

No 3105 between the options to mitigate the furloughs. That said I see no 777 CAs volunteering for this.
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Old 08-08-2020 | 05:00 PM
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So it appears the potential furlough number is between 1800-1900.
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Old 08-08-2020 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Downtime
No 3105 between the options to mitigate the furloughs. That said I see no 777 CAs volunteering for this.
Meh - reading comprehension 101 for me. Too amped up - need to slow it down.
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Old 08-08-2020 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by biigD
Meh - reading comprehension 101 for me. Too amped up - need to slow it down.

Understand man. At this point I am hoping for cares 2.
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Old 08-08-2020 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by biigD
So the company wants 3105 pilots gone? Is that what scared the crap out of the APA?

Can’t figure out the numbers in the last email.
No, this is not the takeaway. Think of the AML and ZTLs are ways for senior guys to fly less and also save jobs. They aren’t for us as plan A, they are the last stop in saving ourselves, but that is not the primary purpose. I see the numbers released as the absolute pipe dream for AA. They get that many takers and they are happy. They know they won’t get nearly that many, it’s just the max they think they can give out and still staff the airline. Long story short, don’t read into them too much . They do not equate to furloughs in any meaningful way
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Old 08-08-2020 | 06:25 PM
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One more thing: everyone throwing rocks and personally calling out the NC on BTL etc better be prepared to eat crow if this turns out for the better
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Old 08-08-2020 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rcflying53
The union reps are on BTL crying about how the 2500 should be grateful the NC got “options”. Funny thing about that, is they just gave the company more options to furlough more without any cost to them. These union guys are so far out in left field it’s amazing. Oh, you got 6 month recall out of it? That’s a concession. Allowing the bid to open without the published estimates? Concession. Furlough out of seniority? Concession. Allowing the bid to be run in 6 days? Concession.

But, it’s all voluntary they say. Yeah, everyone thinks their baby is the cutest. These babies the union just had tho, have hooves and horns. Yet they get all offended if you point it out to them.
So, if they are on BTL, they are BTL, right? And who was the BTL guy that supported EF with his NC follies?

The best NC member took the bullet.

Oh well.
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