It's Time... For ALPA.
08-12-2021 | 06:32 PM
#241
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I hear you. Same crap maybe but better results. Possibly the adult supervision from ALPA national keeps each airline’s ALPA in line. Something is structurally wrong with APA and they haven’t fixed it during the last 30+ years. The results speak for themselves. ALPA produces better contracts than APA. I’m amazed by the guys who would cost themselves hundreds of thousands or possibly millions in earnings over a career because they “hate ALPA.”
08-13-2021 | 09:31 AM
#242
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The management to union switch is even more heavily restricted. You can't prevent any member in good standing from running for a position.
08-13-2021 | 01:16 PM
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Because an entity as big as ALPA is often interested in certain things that go beyond the individual needs of one specific airline. Now at ALPA, Delta and United are the big fish and they set a lot of the tone. So it’s safe to assume that if American were part of ALPA its needs would be prominent. But nothing changes the fact that as APA, the needs of your pilots and your airline are heard and catered to individually. Sure you may pay for certain services or what have you through ALPA National, but in the end your representatives represent you. No one else.
08-13-2021 | 07:59 PM
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There are too many pilots here that got hired in their early 20s 35 years ago who have had 1 job in civilian aviation: AA. They lack perspective and outside the box thinking. They are great pilots and extremely valuable crew members but we'll never have an ILC while they are still here.
08-13-2021 | 08:02 PM
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Because an entity as big as ALPA is often interested in certain things that go beyond the individual needs of one specific airline. Now at ALPA, Delta and United are the big fish and they set a lot of the tone. So it’s safe to assume that if American were part of ALPA its needs would be prominent. But nothing changes the fact that as APA, the needs of your pilots and your airline are heard and catered to individually. Sure you may pay for certain services or what have you through ALPA National, but in the end your representatives represent you. No one else.
08-14-2021 | 10:02 AM
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There are too many pilots here that got hired in their early 20s 35 years ago who have had 1 job in civilian aviation: AA. They lack perspective and outside the box thinking. They are great pilots and extremely valuable crew members but we'll never have an ILC while they are still here.
08-14-2021 | 12:56 PM
#250
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There are too many pilots here that got hired in their early 20s 35 years ago who have had 1 job in civilian aviation: AA. They lack perspective and outside the box thinking. They are great pilots and extremely valuable crew members but we'll never have an ILC while they are still here.
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