Originally Posted by El Peso

Just using Israel as a sample group, they have 78% of the population vaccinated. Yet their COVID cases have jumped from 8 per day in June to 9000 per day with this Delta variant. In short, COVID is here to stay. If international boarders are going to close every time there’s a spike, then the international community, and particularity the international business community needs to realize that doing business is going to become a lot more localized.

If the majority of our long haul flying doesn’t return and we do start seeing the older 777s head for the desert, well then we won’t see much career advancement for the time being. Luckily we have massive retirements so no one should be getting furloughed in this new environment. Just a very real possibility that many will have to forget about wide body long-haul flying. All the more reason to shoot for the stars on the next contract as that 737 might be your last stop.

Originally Posted by Al Czervik

Agreed. People will eventually wake up and look at the facts.

Originally Posted by El Peso

If the majority of our long haul flying doesn’t return and we do start seeing the older 777s head for the desert, well then we won’t see much career advancement for the time being. Luckily we have massive retirements so no one should be getting furloughed in this new environment. Just a very real possibility that many will have to forget about wide body long-haul flying. All the more reason to shoot for the stars on the next contract as that 737 might be your last stop.

Originally Posted by biigD

I just bid the 777 to hedge my bets. People ask me why I still fill out those little flight logs, and I tell them it's to keep the furloughs away. Same thing with widebody flying - I figure if I actually go out and do it the airplanes will stick around.

Originally Posted by chrisreedrules

Maybe? Look at Australia. They’re locking people up for having their mask off for too long while taking a sip of tea outside their house. I’m amazed at what people will willfully put up with.

Originally Posted by Dobbs18

Can you imagine what the Australians would think if they watched any college football this weekend?!! My goodness the scary people from Madison, WI to Blacksburg, VA and down to Tallahassee, FL were all shoulder to shoulder killing each other other! Yeah I am over it, be safe and take the precautions that you can but just remember that this is survivable for what, 99% of us. It may sound harsh but at some point we have to get back to life.

Originally Posted by Dobbs18

Can you imagine what the Australians would think if they watched any college football this weekend?!! My goodness the scary people from Madison, WI to Blacksburg, VA and down to Tallahassee, FL were all shoulder to shoulder killing each other other! Yeah I am over it, be safe and take the precautions that you can but just remember that this is survivable for what, 99% of us. It may sound harsh but at some point we have to get back to life.

Originally Posted by Dobbs18

Can you imagine what the Australians would think if they watched any college football this weekend?!! My goodness the scary people from Madison, WI to Blacksburg, VA and down to Tallahassee, FL were all shoulder to shoulder killing each other other! Yeah I am over it, be safe and take the precautions that you can but just remember that this is survivable for what, 99% of us. It may sound harsh but at some point we have to get back to life.

Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB

It’s back over 1000 deaths a day. 99% survivable is still over 3 million deaths if everyone gets it in this country. The bigger issue is hospitals in areas getting a spike not being able to take in people with other health problems since the beds are full.

Nothing political in this post.