Negotiation Update
10-01-2022 | 04:27 PM
#251
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I'm not nearly as familiar with the 175, but the CRJ 900 on a mainline list would have at least another dozen seats on it, minimum. Currently that AC is configured with 12 business class seats (four more than a 319), a HUGE gap to the first MCE, and probably more MCE than it needs.
10-01-2022 | 05:19 PM
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I’m bearish on the economy as well, but I’m willing to hold out for a great deal. If we go bankrupt everything is reset anyways, regardless of a deal we sign next month. May as well keep our current rates, let everybody else ratify their raises, have new hires bail for Delta and UAL and then we’ll have leverage, kind of exactly what happened in ‘17.
Maybe I've just been f-ed over by this industry too many times.
10-01-2022 | 07:21 PM
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I don't see our prospects improving if APA doesn't get this done in the next 6-8 weeks. Third quarter financials are going to be interesting. Worst year for the S&P 500 since 1930 is nothing to joke about. All of this, while even ALPA claims that there isn't a pilot shortage.
Maybe I've just been f-ed over by this industry too many times.
Maybe I've just been f-ed over by this industry too many times.
Edit: really,.that word is blocked now? Lol
10-02-2022 | 04:58 AM
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E175 is 76 seat in standard configuration,
AA A319 is 128 seat.
That is quit a jump.
(As reference,
AA A320 is 150 seat,
AA B737-800 is 160 seat)
Delta A220-100 is 109 seat, it kind of splits the difference.
(Delta A220-300 is 140 seat.)
A319 has 80 on order, 1,573 delivered.
A220 has 551 on order, 223 delivered.
The seat counts and number on order seems to back up my statement. I stand by it.
AA A319 is 128 seat.
That is quit a jump.
(As reference,
AA A320 is 150 seat,
AA B737-800 is 160 seat)
Delta A220-100 is 109 seat, it kind of splits the difference.
(Delta A220-300 is 140 seat.)
A319 has 80 on order, 1,573 delivered.
A220 has 551 on order, 223 delivered.
The seat counts and number on order seems to back up my statement. I stand by it.
Don't see a reason to get 220s over 10 seat difference.
10-02-2022 | 05:07 AM
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I don't see our prospects improving if APA doesn't get this done in the next 6-8 weeks. Third quarter financials are going to be interesting. Worst year for the S&P 500 since 1930 is nothing to joke about. All of this, while even ALPA claims that there isn't a pilot shortage.
Maybe I've just been f-ed over by this industry too many times.
Maybe I've just been f-ed over by this industry too many times.
These negotiation update emails was a lot more detailed than the previous updates. I have a feeling they are preparing for a TA announcement.n
10-02-2022 | 10:15 AM
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I honestly cannot fathom what legitimate reason the NC has to divulge all this info about AIPs and current pay positions of the company. This is a veiled attempt to manage expectations of whatever is actually coming. This is a 100% BS FUBAR Mickey Mouse show
10-02-2022 | 01:14 PM
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Maybe??? Yeah,…… maybe.
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