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Old 01-09-2013 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
Found this on another board and thought it was dead on.

It was written by an AOL member and isn't too concerned with being objective..

"I would argue that while USAPA is pretty awful as a union"

but over all its a great opinion, as far as biased opinions go.
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Old 01-09-2013 | 06:42 PM
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Great article, it is the fastest way to improve our wages and be competitive. Lets put the pass behind us and think about our future. Can we all just get along.
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Old 01-13-2013 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by cactusmike
IYou can see some of the vocal elements here, and you can see the vitriol.
With the worst of the bunch being you.
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Old 01-13-2013 | 07:17 AM
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The only way the SLI goes smoothly and in a timely manner is if the Nic list is used. Absent that, the integration will be bogged down in the courts until Parker and Co. are told what they HAVE to do with the list.
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Old 01-13-2013 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by FreighterGuyNow
With the worst of the bunch being you.
Okayyyyy! Not sure where you are coming from with that. I have tried to stick to the facts. But if that's your opinion then fine, be happy.
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Old 01-13-2013 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by FreighterGuyNow
With the worst of the bunch being you.
I completely disagree. I'd say Mike is one of the more neutral East/West pilots on here.
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Old 01-15-2013 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ncpilot624
I completely disagree. I'd say Mike is one of the more neutral East/West pilots on here.
Well, I wouldn't say neutral. It's very easy to see where his loyalty and fairness beliefs are. But, I will say that he is one of the most even keeled, and respectful west posters on this board. No, the most even keeled, respectful west poster.
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Old 01-15-2013 | 03:04 PM
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Ok, so the MOU mentions McCaskill-Bond will be used; "A seniority integration process consistent with McCaskill-Bond shall begin as soon as possible after the Effective Date." I'm assuming this mean the Nic is out?
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Old 01-15-2013 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverandSore
Ok, so the MOU mentions McCaskill-Bond will be used; "A seniority integration process consistent with McCaskill-Bond shall begin as soon as possible after the Effective Date." I'm assuming this mean the Nic is out?
Ha, great question. We will let you know in about a year!

As usual we received no clarity on this issue with today's release of the MOU. There are a lot of ambiguities in some of the wording. We do know that MB will be the mechanism for resolving the AA/LCC seniority. The question is still out there which list or lists will be submitted by USAPA. Will there be one list or two lists? Logic would suggest to you that USAPA will submit separate lists for east and west and take their chances with a three way. I don't really have anything more to offer until I go to a roadshow on the MOU and we ask the lawyers.

The NIC may or may not still be in play. It certainly was not mentioned, although only a few would really believe that such a controversial topic would have been part of the MOU. We will have to wait a while until the merger is announced and the JCBA process starts. Remember, the SLI will be done after the JCBA is done. And if you look at the timeline for things to happen I believe the APA will be the sole bargaining agent for everyone at the SLI point.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 12:32 PM
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OK as an outsider; question, if APA is the lead on the SLI, do they use the standard they have set; the TWA SLI?
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