Out of the AA furloughs how many bypass the recall and how many will eventually come back. Ten years is a long time to be on furlough, I'm sure most of them have descent jobs by now.

 

Considering the almost certainty of the future merger and the wildcard of the SLI, I'd expect anyone on furlough with even a marginally decent gig wouldn't shoot craps coming back at the bottom of the combined list. If I had 5 years at Jet Blue, Air Tran or something similar, I'd stick it out there.

IF we merge with the U agreement and furlough protection, it might be awhile before and movement occurs. If Horton controls the merger, I agree with the APA that 1-2000 AA pilots could ultimately get furloughed as there would be no protections at the whim of someone who has already brought in Harvey Miller to call the shots as it is and that should tell every AA pilot (flying and furloughed) EVERYTHING they need to know about how they'd be treated in an AMR controlled merger that would be set up to benefit AMR management and not pilots.

 

Here is a thread about SLI. East/west (and whoever is interested) can argue freely here. Please leave the other threads alone.

 

If the Nic was so fair, then why does the west love it and the east hate it? That doesn't sound fair to me.

What year did the McCaskill-Bond Amendment go into effect? If the Nic was before it, doesn't it make it non-binding outside of ALPA?

If APA decides to forgo the Nic could a east new hire (or AA recall) be put above a 10 year west guy?

What if the merger doesn't happen? Will it be a stalemate forever or will you guys meet in the middle?

 

I think that absent a merger meeting in the middle is impossible. This will not end and we will not have a joint contract until the gavel falls at the SCOTUS. Separate operations with stagnation.

 

SCOTUS will not touch our dispute...Eventually the east, with higher attrition, will replenish its ranks with new blood, new ideas, and a new approach. Absent a merger/ middle ground, DP will milk this dispute till most of us retire...

 

And when will this be for you Blew?

 

Not soon enough.....

 

what makes you think the west loves it? #1 west pilot goes to 517 and every west pilot loses relative position under the Nicolau award. Does it sound fair that the east pilots are trying to staple the west?
the nic. Was before MB. The courts in our case say the union can negotiate any and all terms of a contract as long as the parties agree. This is why the east took alpa away so the west would lose representation and not have a voice.
sure he could, an east new hire has a better career outlook than a 14 year west pilot currently.
stalemate forever.

 

Important to note stagnation on west side but no contract improvements eas either.