I've said nothing negative about ANY pilot!

But this is a public space open for discourse and if you choose not to participate, so be it.

I for one am not going anyplace.

Cheers.

 

Tomahawk - this is your team?? Since when does the changing the CEO change the team??? You've been here through Crandall, Carty, Arpey and now Horton. Those changes were acceptable, along with the mgt and flight department people that they installed, but a guy named Doug Parker isn't acceptable?

What if the AMR BOD fired Horton and hired Doug Parker? Would that, suddenly, be acceptable to have him lead your "team"?

My choices -

1. AA's survival along with the AA name
2. AA's survival, even with another name on the fuselage

Do I really care if Arpey, Horton, Parker, or Kirby is running the show? No, I'd just like to see effective management. I couldn't care less if they're short, tall, fat, skinny, or are named Tom or Doug.

 

But character and strength does matter. Tough choices are never an easy sell, in fact it's quite difficult. Someone comes along and offers what appears to be the easy way out. He says trust me to make things work. I look at his past and current actions. So far, what I see in Doug doesn't inspire me based on the team his currently leads.

I'd certainly have a different view of Doug if his own house was sterling, but alas it isn't. I'll stick with the AA team until they're relieved of duty.

If the board chooses Doug and gives up on Tom, I'll give him and AA every once of loyalty and professionalism I possess. You see, I don't believe in the temporal, but in things that endure!

 

You're joking right?

Parker was handed AWA on the verge of bankruptcy and possibly liquidation. Look what he's accomplished.

Your guy is part of the team that took the greatest airline on the face of the friggin' earth and put it where it is now, in bankruptcy.

You've got to be one of the management dopes, just wanting to hang on long enough to screw the employees, exit bankruptcy and build your golden parachute.

 

The AA team is one of the worst management teams in many years- and A has had a lot of crappy ones. Your allegiance to them is quite odd.

 

Did he follow this with "Turn around.....it'll only pinch for just a minute"?

 

So, I'm sure that's the reason Doug met with all the US folks first prior to meeting with the APA, APFA and TWU. I'm sure that's the reason he wanted to make you all whole, pay and contract-wise, before he made any promises to the AA groups.

You're right, I don't know what the heck I was thinking. If you could just post a copy of the meeting notes that occurred with the US team that took place prior to the meeting with the AA team.

Yes, who really needs loyalty and character! There's no need to do any hard work here; all will work out according to plan.

 

Tomahawk,
When you type do you honestly believe that anyone here accepts that you are actually a pilot for American? If you are, please pm any one of the many AA guys on here (I'm not one) and identify yourself and have them validate your credentials. You defend AA management as if they are a collective group of geniuses that have only been hampered by unions and forces they could not control. Please, most of the pilots on here are college educated. The reality is since Crandall AA management team has been dreadful! In the early '90s Crandall could have bought both America West and USAir with cash without making a dent on their books. Now, AA (a great airline) has been brought to the point where USAir is buying them. Yet, you defend this management team and encourage AA pilots to work for RJ wages/work rules (not to mention the untold number of furloughs.) If you truly are a pilot then your words reflect the image of the worst pilot of all, a Scab!

 

Any many here defend Doug if he's the messiah. Sorry, I don't have to prove my credentials to anyone here. Believe what you choose to believe; that's the freedom all here have.

As to golden parachute, I have what every one of my fellow AA pilots have, an A and B fund plus a 401k. And for all the put downs of the AA leadership teams over the years, we certainly have faired well retirement-wise.

 

Every bit as solid as the furlough protection I was given 10 years ago.

Just before my furlough...