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04-29-2012 | 05:43 AM
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Have the DC and the the yet to be determined A-fund benn taken off the table since yesterday?
04-29-2012 | 06:24 AM
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Wishing you'd taken that lump sum back in Sep or Oct of 2011, are you?
04-29-2012 | 06:28 AM
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T-hawk,
Horton is not a leader with strength and character, imo. He has frozen the A plan or maybe given the A plan to the taxpayers. He is ending the B plan. He is unable to touch the 401k or it might be stolen as well. Yes, he is allowing another plan to replace the A and B with between a 13-14% company contribution. I do approve of that!
Horton is in the process of terminating the contracts of all unions!!!!!! Have you read his proposal on sick?? Have you read is proposal on duty rigs? Have you read his proposal on 319 pay? Have you read his proposal on SCOPE? Have you read and agree with any of the 1113 proposals???
Horton is not a leader with strength and character, imo. He has frozen the A plan or maybe given the A plan to the taxpayers. He is ending the B plan. He is unable to touch the 401k or it might be stolen as well. Yes, he is allowing another plan to replace the A and B with between a 13-14% company contribution. I do approve of that!
Horton is in the process of terminating the contracts of all unions!!!!!! Have you read his proposal on sick?? Have you read is proposal on duty rigs? Have you read his proposal on 319 pay? Have you read his proposal on SCOPE? Have you read and agree with any of the 1113 proposals???
04-29-2012 | 06:30 AM
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Thanks, but nothing could be further from the truth. I do love both my company and the flying and plan to be here till I'm 65.
While I'll fight to the very last to keep AA independent, once a final determination is made, no matter who's at the helm, I'll fight and work just as hard for the future success of our company.
04-29-2012 | 06:42 AM
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T-hawk,
Horton is not a leader with strength and character, imo. He has frozen the A plan or maybe given the A plan to the taxpayers. He is ending the B plan. He is unable to touch the 401k or it might be stolen as well. Yes, he is allowing another plan to replace the A and B with between a 13-14% company contribution. I do approve of that!
Horton is in the process of terminating the contracts of all unions!!!!!! Have you read his proposal on sick?? Have you read is proposal on duty rigs? Have you read his proposal on 319 pay? Have you read his proposal on SCOPE? Have you read and agree with any of the 1113 proposals???
Horton is not a leader with strength and character, imo. He has frozen the A plan or maybe given the A plan to the taxpayers. He is ending the B plan. He is unable to touch the 401k or it might be stolen as well. Yes, he is allowing another plan to replace the A and B with between a 13-14% company contribution. I do approve of that!
Horton is in the process of terminating the contracts of all unions!!!!!! Have you read his proposal on sick?? Have you read is proposal on duty rigs? Have you read his proposal on 319 pay? Have you read his proposal on SCOPE? Have you read and agree with any of the 1113 proposals???
I have read the term sheets.
Let's review the differences between AA and US:
1. A-fund AA - proposed freeze, US - none
2. B-fund AA - convert to 13.5 percent, US - 10 percent
3. 401k same both carriers
4. Sick AA - managed plan, US - unknown but the US guys can fill us in.
5. Scope AA -1/2 the number of m/l jets, US - 1/2 the number of m/l jets(in Parker's proposal to APA)
5. Pay AA - the guys do the bottom take a slight hit, US - so far only a proposal to APA and none to US pilots yet.
Clearly, I'm not suggesting any of this is easy. Let's see what Parker and Kisrby are willing to put in "final contract language" for the combined operation on all of these areas, then we can argue on the merits. Right now they are promises written in sand.
04-29-2012 | 06:43 AM
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04-29-2012 | 03:56 PM
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So, I'm sure that's the reason Doug met with all the US folks first prior to meeting with the APA, APFA and TWU. I'm sure that's the reason he wanted to make you all whole, pay and contract-wise, before he made any promises to the AA groups.
You're right, I don't know what the heck I was thinking. If you could just post a copy of the meeting notes that occurred with the US team that took place prior to the meeting with the AA team.
Yes, who really needs loyalty and character! There's no need to do any hard work here; all will work out according to plan.
You're right, I don't know what the heck I was thinking. If you could just post a copy of the meeting notes that occurred with the US team that took place prior to the meeting with the AA team.
Yes, who really needs loyalty and character! There's no need to do any hard work here; all will work out according to plan.
When Parker simply said he would like to see a fair seniority integration between the flight attendants their union responded by sending the sheep out to protest at headquarters and told him to mind his own business.
Mechanics? On the east they used to Park aircraft. Numerous times an aircraft would be pulling in and a shift change would occur. Mechanic would lay down the wands with a/c just feet from the gate and walk away. Then aircraft would sit there unparked for 30 minutes loaded with passengers.
Ground? After the merger Parker wanted a publicity shot in, I believe Philly, of him throwing some bags. There was no security issue. Union rampers said that was a union job and he better put them down. They proceeded to curse out their new CEO.
You think your unions are enjoying dealing with a professional, I'm willing to bet the feeling from Parker is mutual.
As a footnote, I'm pro-union, just have little use for US Airways' current unions that are anti-business.
04-29-2012 | 06:54 PM
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Why on the earth would Parker meet with our unions prior? Because the majority rules, our unions are run by the east/ex-US Air. To fill you in a little, our previous pilot-union head used to sit in the corner and glare at our management team when at company functions. He was about as mature as a 4 year old who hadn't taken a nap. Just in the last couple weeks he was finally replaced.
When Parker simply said he would like to see a fair seniority integration between the flight attendants their union responded by sending the sheep out to protest at headquarters and told him to mind his own business.
Mechanics? On the east they used to Park aircraft. Numerous times an aircraft would be pulling in and a shift change would occur. Mechanic would lay down the wands with a/c just feet from the gate and walk away. Then aircraft would sit there unparked for 30 minutes loaded with passengers.
Ground? After the merger Parker wanted a publicity shot in, I believe Philly, of him throwing some bags. There was no security issue. Union rampers said that was a union job and he better put them down. They proceeded to curse out their new CEO.
You think your unions are enjoying dealing with a professional, I'm willing to bet the feeling from Parker is mutual.
As a footnote, I'm pro-union, just have little use for US Airways' current unions that are anti-business.
When Parker simply said he would like to see a fair seniority integration between the flight attendants their union responded by sending the sheep out to protest at headquarters and told him to mind his own business.
Mechanics? On the east they used to Park aircraft. Numerous times an aircraft would be pulling in and a shift change would occur. Mechanic would lay down the wands with a/c just feet from the gate and walk away. Then aircraft would sit there unparked for 30 minutes loaded with passengers.
Ground? After the merger Parker wanted a publicity shot in, I believe Philly, of him throwing some bags. There was no security issue. Union rampers said that was a union job and he better put them down. They proceeded to curse out their new CEO.
You think your unions are enjoying dealing with a professional, I'm willing to bet the feeling from Parker is mutual.
As a footnote, I'm pro-union, just have little use for US Airways' current unions that are anti-business.
Mechanic to park the aircraft?? You mean y'all don't use auto parking?
04-30-2012 | 02:56 AM
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Why on the earth would Parker meet with our unions prior? Because the majority rules, our unions are run by the east/ex-US Air. To fill you in a little, our previous pilot-union head used to sit in the corner and glare at our management team when at company functions. He was about as mature as a 4 year old who hadn't taken a nap. Just in the last couple weeks he was finally replaced.
When Parker simply said he would like to see a fair seniority integration between the flight attendants their union responded by sending the sheep out to protest at headquarters and told him to mind his own business.
Mechanics? On the east they used to Park aircraft. Numerous times an aircraft would be pulling in and a shift change would occur. Mechanic would lay down the wands with a/c just feet from the gate and walk away. Then aircraft would sit there unparked for 30 minutes loaded with passengers.
Ground? After the merger Parker wanted a publicity shot in, I believe Philly, of him throwing some bags. There was no security issue. Union rampers said that was a union job and he better put them down. They proceeded to curse out their new CEO.
You think your unions are enjoying dealing with a professional, I'm willing to bet the feeling from Parker is mutual.
As a footnote, I'm pro-union, just have little use for US Airways' current unions that are anti-business.
When Parker simply said he would like to see a fair seniority integration between the flight attendants their union responded by sending the sheep out to protest at headquarters and told him to mind his own business.
Mechanics? On the east they used to Park aircraft. Numerous times an aircraft would be pulling in and a shift change would occur. Mechanic would lay down the wands with a/c just feet from the gate and walk away. Then aircraft would sit there unparked for 30 minutes loaded with passengers.
Ground? After the merger Parker wanted a publicity shot in, I believe Philly, of him throwing some bags. There was no security issue. Union rampers said that was a union job and he better put them down. They proceeded to curse out their new CEO.
You think your unions are enjoying dealing with a professional, I'm willing to bet the feeling from Parker is mutual.
As a footnote, I'm pro-union, just have little use for US Airways' current unions that are anti-business.
But I guess the thinking is that the APA along with the US-West folks will just show those guys in US-East how things are really done. I can hardly wait to get the show on the road.
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