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Old 04-30-2012 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by GQpilot
Why on the earth would Parker meet with our unions prior? Because the majority rules, our unions are run by the east/ex-US Air. To fill you in a little, our previous pilot-union head used to sit in the corner and glare at our management team when at company functions. He was about as mature as a 4 year old who hadn't taken a nap. Just in the last couple weeks he was finally replaced.

When Parker simply said he would like to see a fair seniority integration between the flight attendants their union responded by sending the sheep out to protest at headquarters and told him to mind his own business.

Mechanics? On the east they used to Park aircraft. Numerous times an aircraft would be pulling in and a shift change would occur. Mechanic would lay down the wands with a/c just feet from the gate and walk away. Then aircraft would sit there unparked for 30 minutes loaded with passengers.

Ground? After the merger Parker wanted a publicity shot in, I believe Philly, of him throwing some bags. There was no security issue. Union rampers said that was a union job and he better put them down. They proceeded to curse out their new CEO.

You think your unions are enjoying dealing with a professional, I'm willing to bet the feeling from Parker is mutual.

As a footnote, I'm pro-union, just have little use for US Airways' current unions that are anti-business.
Give it a break. Mechanics haven't parked A/C for almost 10 years here. Two trips to bankruptcy court have effectively neutered all the unions on the property.
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Old 04-30-2012 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Tomahawk58
And folks to me to task for not wanting AA to be any part of this maelstrom.

But I guess the thinking is that the APA along with the US-West folks will just show those guys in US-East how things are really done. I can hardly wait to get the show on the road.
The west only numbers about 1500. The American unions will have the majority regardless of the west. It's a great deal for the American unions, the US unions are so immature and clueless they're not a threat.

You've already said your seniority can't be effected and that you have knowledge that management didn't meet with USAPA. So either you're lying or are management. Gotcha.
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Old 04-30-2012 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
Give it a break. Mechanics haven't parked A/C for almost 10 years here. Two trips to bankruptcy court have effectively neutered all the unions on the property.
Yes and the merger was 6 years ago.

The mentality is still there and in some cases it's the same people running the show.
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Old 04-30-2012 | 07:44 AM
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Parker is going to meet with USAPA tomorrow. It will be interesting conversation, don'tcha think?
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Old 04-30-2012 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by cactusmike
Parker is going to meet with USAPA tomorrow. It will be interesting conversation, don'tcha think?
I don't know. If he just talks in circles like he does on crew news there won't be much there.
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Old 04-30-2012 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
I don't know. If he just talks in circles like he does on crew news there won't be much there.
Yes, indeed. That is always a possibility and one that I would not be surprised to see happen. The man can dance, can't he?
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Old 04-30-2012 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by cactusmike
Yes, indeed. That is always a possibility and one that I would not be surprised to see happen. The man can dance, can't he?
That he can. I think it was just a few crew news sessions ago that he was still claiming that he didn't know what his lawyer was saying about the DJ. Sure looks like he is just going to walk around us, if he can.
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Old 04-30-2012 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by GQpilot
The west only numbers about 1500. The American unions will have the majority regardless of the west. It's a great deal for the American unions, the US unions are so immature and clueless they're not a threat.

You've already said your seniority can't be effected and that you have knowledge that management didn't meet with USAPA. So either you're lying or are management. Gotcha.
There you go believing I'm in this for myself.

I'm an AAer through and through, and think it would be courtroom drama for years to come for all the AA and US folks if this tie-up were to take place. By your own admission, you all are at odds with the East pilots. Now you're suggesting that together with the APA, the East guys would be marginalized or neutered. Given that you're willing to throw your own folks under the bus, what's to say this won't the the collective strategy for the foreseeable future?

Remind me again why this is a good deal for the AA folks?
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Old 05-01-2012 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomahawk58

Remind me again why this is a good deal for the AA folks?

Section 1113 of the Bankruptcy Code.
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Old 05-01-2012 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by cactusmike
Section 1113 of the Bankruptcy Code.
So what exactly happen during your 2 trips through the BK process?
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