Probably will go to Bond/Mckaskill arbitrator, and he or she will use relative seniority - but it's his or her ruling and it's binding. Not sure how the arbitrator will deal with Nicholi or Supp CC agreements, but one thing is certain - no group will be happy with a merged seniority roster!

 

Then we'll have a favorable SLI.

 

EF, he was outvoted, and besides, the TWA BOD (and CEO Bill Compton) had already decided AMR would be the winning bidder for TWA. And don't forget---ALPA was pressuring our MEC because they had already cut a secret deal with APA & AA to integrate.

One thing is certain: No pilots had any say or vote in this; and none of the pilots at US or AA will, either. The AMR BOD and US BOD will.

Buddies8 had it positively correct when he stated:

"Lets not forget that ALPA had started a process for regaining representation of the AA pilots during this period. ALPA national was looking at dues, 2500 pilots from TWA or 10,000 pilots from AA. ALPA,s belief was screw TWA and gain support and traction on AA property for a vote for ALPA. ALPA did the same thing to Eagle, sold them for 16 years while trying to gain favor with AA pilots for representation. Dont anyone ever mention union representation from ALPA, they look out for ALPA first and last, pilots are collateral damage.
Just a point of view with the facts. "

Can anyone say 'Conflict of interest'? TWA's pilots had their fate sealed not by APA & AA, but by their own 'union', prior to the integration!

 

^^^^^^^ Your best, most accurate post to date! ^^^^^^^^

 

APA most certainly IS urging AMR to close STL and throw out Supp CC. I read the new proposal and it is flawed unless a neutral 3rd-party arbitrator decides what to do with STL-based ex-TWA pilots. Don't you read C&R? Are there any NAAtives urging to keep STL open and allow protected CAs there to remain in their seats? LOL to you, too...

And for CactusMike...what if Nicolau was thrown out since it was never implimented and a new agreement between HP-AA-US was reached? Isn't that a possibility?

 

100% correct!

 

Thank you, and I humbly concur!

 

Nice adding of the second line, you jokester.

 

Well you don't have a clue about the situation. So you are saying that usapa actively avoiding the arbitration should be rewarded by a do over 5 years later, where the west has been shrunk and the east grown 7 years after we are a single company? Besides the moral implications, there are legal implications that you obviously don't understand. The Nic. does not and cannot be "ratified" neither east or west get's a vote. The Nic, is the accepted SLI at usairways at this time and was inherited by usapa as a successor union. Usapa want's to remove the EXISTING sli and replace it with one that favors the east pilot's. These are the fact's, the only question has only ever been if replacing an existing seniority list with one that favors the majority is illegal. A jury in phx said yes it was, the 9th circuit said that we had to wait until the list was actually replaced to sue.

 

Hysteria. I stand by my comments.