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Old 01-14-2015 | 11:22 PM
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Where can i find the video interview questions?
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Old 01-15-2015 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by olympic
I have 3 times more time than you and Airbus PIC and no call ... I guess flying an f15 makes you a better pax pilot.
Interesting to see all the military guys band together. I feel your frustration Olympus. It is true, a military guy whose flown fighters, tankers, whatever is highly more likely to get an invite even when compared to a guy who flies an airliner day in and day out.

Yes, I think that is unfair. We all know this is true. I'm not talking anything about being a better pilot or stick and rudder guy cause I've flown with both many times , some are great, some are the next accident waiting to happen.

But a common thread is true what I wrote above regarding hiring preference. So yes I too can understand why one would be sour. It's easy to see the world trough rose colored glasses but if you take them off for a minute you would see that on paper, clearly the guy FLYING an airliner should be the one getting the nod considering all things are equal and even more so if the guy that is a current 121 Captain even more so
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Old 01-15-2015 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by kikojump
Where can i find the video interview questions?
If you start from page one of this thread you will run into them as you scroll through the pages. Good Luck!
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Old 01-15-2015 | 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by airspeed1974
Interesting to see all the military guys band together. I feel your frustration Olympus. It is true, a military guy whose flown fighters, tankers, whatever is highly more likely to get an invite even when compared to a guy who flies an airliner day in and day out.

Yes, I think that is unfair. We all know this is true. I'm not talking anything about being a better pilot or stick and rudder guy cause I've flown with both many times , some are great, some are the next accident waiting to happen.

But a common thread is true what I wrote above regarding hiring preference. So yes I too can understand why one would be sour. It's easy to see the world trough rose colored glasses but if you take them off for a minute you would see that on paper, clearly the guy FLYING an airliner should be the one getting the nod considering all things are equal and even more so if the guy that is a current 121 Captain even more so

Current class is over 2/3 Part 121 and the rest Mil. Nobody is being left out. Be patient and keep a good attitude. Remember there are 11,000 plus applications in file. It might be a while, especially when they are only hiring 50/month.

Also remember that as someone doing hiring, they have no way to quantify your training if you've come up the civilian route. There are a million different ways to get into flying outside of the military as well as a million different training programs and check airmen. UPT is for the most part a very reliable source for pilots.

I've done both and there are major differences. The company is looking for people who will be a return on investment along with being safe. On paper that would make them lean to the guy who received over a million dollars in flight training in very high performance aircraft.

Just sayin,

Best of luck to everyone. 2015 is going to be a good year!

Please don't let this turn into a MIL vs CIV bashing thread hijack

Everyone brings something good to the table

"Can't we all just get along"
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Old 01-15-2015 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by StratoSoda
Current class is over 2/3 Part 121 and the rest Mil. Nobody is being left out. Be patient and keep a good attitude. Remember there are 11,000 plus applications in file. It might be a while, especially when they are only hiring 50/month. Also remember that as someone doing hiring, they have no way to quantify your training if you've come up the civilian route. There are a million different ways to get into flying outside of the military as well as a million different training programs and check airmen. UPT is for the most part a very reliable source for pilots. I've done both and there are major differences. The company is looking for people who will be a return on investment along with being safe. On paper that would make them lean to the guy who received over a million dollars in flight training in very high performance aircraft. Just sayin, Best of luck to everyone. 2015 is going to be a good year! Please don't let this turn into a MIL vs CIV bashing thread hijack Everyone brings something good to the table "Can't we all just get along" Rodney King
Not trying to turn this into that at all. Training is one thing, but when you have a guy who say has been a 757 captain for many years flying all over the world I think that should speak volumes.
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Old 01-15-2015 | 06:01 AM
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Maybe, it's all in the eyes of the beholder.

Also every company isn't equal...
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Old 01-15-2015 | 06:20 AM
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Do the class date assignments come via email or phone call? I was in the mid-Sept interview group, so I'm expecting a class date soon, but I'll be out of the country for the next 3 weeks starting Sunday. Just trying to figure out if I need to update them with my international phone number.
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Old 01-15-2015 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by kikojump
Where can i find the video interview questions?
Try page 67

Good Luck!
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Old 01-15-2015 | 06:29 AM
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I've been checking my email for several months and haven't received any word good or bad. I've been updating my app after every trip and everything still in the green. Does this mean just wait your turn? Also, a lot of guys are bailing Envoy and going to the Frontiers and Blues. I'm ready to get out as well. My goal has always been AA; should I leave and go to a Frontier or Blue so I can get to AA faster or just sit tight?
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Old 01-15-2015 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Centurion
I've been checking my email for several months and haven't received any word good or bad. I've been updating my app after every trip and everything still in the green. Does this mean just wait your turn? Also, a lot of guys are bailing Envoy and going to the Frontiers and Blues. I'm ready to get out as well. My goal has always been AA; should I leave and go to a Frontier or Blue so I can get to AA faster or just sit tight?
Not trying to be a jerk, but you might never hear from them, so yes you might want to look at other options while you wait. You can always bail from your new job.

For example, I was really hoping to go to United for the Denver domicile. I had my app in for two years, went to a job fair, had 6 internal LOR's etc. I never got the call even after leaving the AF and flying for US Airways. Glad I took this job, wasn't my first choice, but it's a good gig and I'm staying now as I'll likely be way better off here in terms of upgrades, and my retirement number. United has hired a lot of people since I've been here and many are likely younger than me.

I've met lots of guys like me that commute out of a hub for an airline they'd of liked to work for but never got the call...
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