Originally Posted by cactusmike

Other than the jetway incident in LAS where the chocks in signal was missed and the plane rolled into the jetway I can't think of one incident.

But fine, if you want to lump us together that's ok. We will be doing the same thing we have always done, fly safely no matter what BS is put out there.

I'm not glossing over anything, nor am I a blind follower, unlike most of your compatriots (not you, you have actually read the documents). But as you can see, these cases turn on very small points, and Judge Silver has made it very clear that she believes the west pilots have had a very legitimate case. Many of us thought we had a ripe case, even the Judge thought as well. But 10h and her interpretation of the MB process has served only to further delay the finality of the ast/west SLI. Now it may be left up to the APA merger policy and a board of arbitration. Or not, her idea that arbitration may be unnecessary after USAPA is gone is very problematic.

We may all be joining in one more trip to the Ninth to clarify her ruling. She did not listen to Siegel, the company lawyer, who is a recognized expert on RLA law and she has chosen to do her own reading of McCaskille Bond. This delays the end game and has everyone scratching their heads, while the east continues to capture upgrades and attrition with the virtual now going on 8 year fence.

So when you believe that the west pilots should just fold our hands and call it a day you could not be more wrong. No one could have foreseen the turn of events, no one would ever have believed that an agreed arbitration would have been circumvented. We have had a win and several close losses on rulings. Until this is dead and buried with a final seniority list there is no way we will stop advocating for a SLI that does not harm us.

Originally Posted by cactusmike

Until this is dead and buried with a final seniority list there is no way we will stop advocating for a SLI that does not harm us.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

Exactly how does it harm you to still be operating under the same seniority list that you operated under prior to the USAirways merger?

Carl

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

Exactly how does it harm you to still be operating under the same seniority list that you operated under prior to the USAirways merger?

Carl

Originally Posted by DCA A321 FO

Carl, don't expect an intelligent answer anytime soon.

Right now, at this point in time, the West couldn't survive without the East. How did that LAS base work out for ya'll?

Originally Posted by cactiboss

Because we lost seats after we were a single airline, 3 years after to be precise.

Originally Posted by LittleBoyBlew

^^^ Loockie who showed up to the party!!
Spin away Mr. wiskey. Tells US how AOL has USAPA against the wall and how the nic will soon be implemented....Yawn..zzzzzz

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

How can you be a "single airline" as it relates to pilots if you are still bidding from the exact same separate seniority lists you each brought to the merger?

Carl

Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver

Because there has been growth AFTER and a new fleet AFTER thats how!!

WD at AWA