The courts are keeping the fight going. They keep putting comments in with their rulings that both side read to mean they are in the right and just that close to winning. Just keep the fight going on a little longer, keep the money flowing and we have a win!

Sometimes battles like this develop an inertia that is impossible to overcome until there is a total defeat of one side. Then often the other side realizes what that defeat cost.

The poster yesterday said that I would be dealing with a lonely cockpit. I wonder what he thinks a west guy with one month seniority, that was put ahead of an east guy with 17 years would have dealt with?

George Nicolau screwed us all.

This thing is looking more and more like WWI every day.

 

Their AOL handlers have lifted their restrictions from posting on web boards. I'm sure as more move away from AOL. We will see more west posters around,, and angry.

As r57 said the calculator has been used extensively. Though the west posters here have framed the Kirby proposal as equal to the MOU. In reality it was more like a regional contract.

I am fine with my decision. How are all of the west members with their monetary support for AOL. The first bill for addingtonI. Was around 2 million. Two cases since then. What is each member on the hook for?

 

You are correct. The legal system is nothing more than a capital intensive circus that feeds on the gullible and exploits their capital by handing out false hopes and un achievable conclusions.

 

He who meddles in affairs not his own is as one who attempts to seperate fighting dogs by their ears.

P.S. If you make more than $180 an hour I am happy for you. Adios.

 

Well now that it's done, I'd like to restate what I posted a long time ago...FWIW. USAPA should present the two separate lists that are currently in use. The current west list and the current east list. Does USAPA have the power to present a date of hire list? Yes, but it would be foolish IMO. Nobody could successfully claim DFR by submitting lists that they are currently living with. East pilots would have the victory of never having the Nic implemented, but not the huge windfall of a date of hire list. West pilots would have the victory of not having date of hire jammed down their throats, but not the huge windfall of the unimplemented Nicolau award.

It will be an unwise overreach if USAPA tries to submit anything other than the two separate current lists. It will be an unwise waste of money if west pilots continue to sue for implementation of their unimplemented windfall.

Carl

 

I agree. The two lists just makes good sense, and besides, the real issue is the proposed method of integration... Think about it.

 

I remember your posts well Carl. I believe cacti and WD essentially said you were an idiot.

I agree with the above. It's what the MOU calls for.

 

Agree. I've always predicted that a THREE way SLI integration would take place. 3 separate listS. It would seem an over reach, on USAPAs part, if a combined east/west DOH list is presented. This would most likely provide some immunity from a DFR 3 suit down the road. With that being said, we can all move forward and prepare for what will most likely be a difficult journey for OUR three groups. Unless the east/west group can form a unified front, the APA will exploit OUR weakness and benefit from our division. The Co. will undoubtedly take advantage of this. Enough damage has been done. Lets move this thing forward and secure a FAIR and EQUITABLE SLI for the New AA pilots.

 

you want the west to take the furloughs and downgrades that happened AFTER we were a single company for 3 years? You east boys better wake up, this ruling is a "punt" it will be appealed and usapa and the company will be sued at every step, get used to it.

 

You really need to stop and think for once. You are sitting on a right seat island out in PHX. Do you really want to delay the SLI and watch the east attrition keep on rolling without you? 62 captain vacancies for the April bid.