I don't think that our management is just "giving away money" just for the heck of it. I think they are trying to sew up all the labor contracts so they can get on with the business of finishing the merger. If we're still two airlines floundering around trying to figure out contracts and other stuff, we can't possibly get organized well enough to compete with DAL and the others.

I've heard from a few others that Parker and Kirby are keen on wrapping up the JCBA stuff pretty quick...if so, that's smart. Spend a little more now so they can turn AA into a thoroughbred competitor. I think the issue about scope was being bounced around by Kirby just to see what the reception would be...maybe the pilots would be receptive? I think once we answer with a resounding "NO", they'll try to wrap up the contract and give us pay similar to Delta.

 

Not high at all if every pilot group negotiates the same deal.

 

He's not giving away money. He's investing it in his employees.... Do you think you can have a good product with completely unmotivated employees?
Doesn't it demotivate you to know you are making up to 30% less than your competitors for doing the same job? No profit sharing, etc?
There are costs in merging companies, but in the end hopefully the product will be worth more than the parts.

 

Actually, no not really. Money has always been a poor motivator when you're talking big picture stuff.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't anticipating that 2016 raise, but I worked just as hard and cared just as much for the operation when I was a commuter F/O. I'd bet a lot of us could say that.

 

Well inline,
If a more than 50% can say that, then stand by for a pay cut, cause if the SAME job can get done at the SAME level for half the pay, then really what right does mgmt have agreeing to spend the extra 50% on your services.

If you work just as hard and care just as much for 1/2 the pay, why give you any raise at all?

Many things motivate employees, but $$$$$ has got to be 2 out of the top three.
LUV

 

Not sure where you get that statement, but it simply is not true. While money, in and of itself, may not be a great motivator, it is a direct indication of one the most powerful motivator -- equity. Study after study shows that a sense of fairness or equity (paying me what I'm worth, in comparison to job skills and to my counterparts) is a workplace motivator.

To say that you worked equally as hard or cared for the operation as a commuter F/O is either untrue (you are deluding yourself) or you are an anomaly (which is entirely possible, in which case, I admire your work ethic). Study after study shows that pay equity directly affects motivation which directly impacts operational efficiency. These are not correlations, they are cause-and-effect relationships.

But don't take my word for it, do a search on Google Scholar (select peer-reviewed papers only to avoid the unchecked lunacy that some people write) and read some of the scientific papers on workplace motivation, pay, and equity. Here is a link to a few of the papers about money, motivation, and the airline industry: money motivation airline - Google Scholar.

In heavily unionized industries, money is THE motivator for most people. Want proof? Look at how many people turn straight to the compensation system when we get a T/A and vote accordingly...

 

Money matters. Not in how good of a job I do, but definitely in terms of how much I work. For example, on first year pay, I'm not ever trying to pick up extra trips. It's just not worth it at $40 per hour. Similarly, if I am ever fortunate enough to make $250k or more a year, I'm not going to pick up extra trips when The government is taking 40 cents on the dollar or whatever the government is taking from me at that time (probably over 50 by then). Rather, I'll fly as little as possible and focus on QOL. In between those two stages of life, I'll work my butt off.

 

Scot Kirby in DFW said that the company is willing to offer meaningfully more economic value then the MOU calls for and do it quicker. More days off? More money? We will see. and give up what? Scope. be careful!

 

Did Scot actually say Scope, or are you just guessing that's what he wants?

 

No he didn't say scope. I just hope we don't fall into that trap!