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Old 12-16-2015 | 01:53 PM
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Do we need to hire that many? PBS is going to reduce staffing even more. 2015 was stagnant at least as far as US goes. I even went backward.
This is the curious thing. Early on in this hiring wave, when I was in indoc a question was asked of one of the VPs about why we had only announced hiring for 500ish (I can't even remember the number now) when Delta/UAL were looking at 800-1000 publicly. The VP was quick to say that "this management group" was verrrry concerned about wall street, and any over-speculation on hiring would have a negative affect on stock/expectations/etc, and that they would rather hire more than the announced total than less, for those reasons.

Now we have the same management team saying anywhere from 700-800 next year with 750+ a year pretty much indefinitely. Yes, this is with the SLI, PBS and other staff shrinking synergies quickly approaching. Yesterday in the crew news, Parker/Isom were also complaining about the "glut" of wide body orders and adding overcapacity (the 787 having more seats than the 767), but also saying "don't worry, we're going to take them, we HAVE to take them."

Who the "H.E. double hockey sticks" knows...
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Old 12-16-2015 | 02:11 PM
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The 'glut' of w/b orders is only a 1-2 year bump. They're still taking the orders. They just said in a perfect world the delivery schedule would be slightly different. It's the net result of two different airlines ordering a/c and now being delivered to one airline.
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Old 12-16-2015 | 08:45 PM
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Thanks Slice. Anybody done the math to see if the 787 will replace most of the 767 fleet?
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Old 12-17-2015 | 06:48 PM
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Jan 5 class date at AA! Excited to say the least.

I saw in another forum AA isn't going to charge for 1st class travel starting in June. Any truth? If so, my wife is WAY stoked!
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Old 12-17-2015 | 06:59 PM
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Jan 5 class date at AA! Excited to say the least.

I saw in another forum AA isn't going to charge for 1st class travel starting in June. Any truth? If so, my wife is WAY stoked!
Congratulations! Hell, we used to have to pay non-rev fees for the first 5 years w/the company no matter which cabin. Consider yourself lucky
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Old 12-17-2015 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Cheddar
Thanks Slice. Anybody done the math to see if the 787 will replace most of the 767 fleet?
767 drawdown is another 20-25 in the next 3(?) years. Most, or all, of those routes have to be flown by a w/b.

787 deliveries total 30 in the next 3 yrs. Add in two 777-300ER's and 16 A350's by then and the w/b increase will be 23-28 airframes.

The retiring 767's might be replaced by 787's or upgauged with A332's, A333's, or 772's.

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Old 12-17-2015 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Saluki
Jan 5 class date at AA! Excited to say the least.

I saw in another forum AA isn't going to charge for 1st class travel starting in June. Any truth? If so, my wife is WAY stoked!
True. June 1st target date.

In lieu of profit starting. :-/
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Old 12-17-2015 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Saluki
I saw in another forum AA isn't going to charge for 1st class travel starting in June.
First is rarely open. At least on the flights I am on both flying and non-reving.
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Old 12-18-2015 | 10:40 AM
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They try to upgrade everyone, and AA has a long ass list of upgrades on the flights I've nonrev'd on.
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Old 12-18-2015 | 11:47 AM
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It was only ten bucks, one beer and a meal and you made your money back. Also, it was a great way to bump your chances of getting home up a bit, since most people didn't want to pay. Personally, I listed for it whenever I didn't have the jumpseat booked and the plane was close to full on commutes. I always listed for it for non rev personal (non commuting) travel.
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