Why can't pay be proposed or negotiated to match The Delta / United average adjusting throughout the contract where ours is adjusted whenever there is a change in their average?

 

According to APC Delta's 401k contribution is only 2%, plus matching. Is this true?

It also says they get a 3% raise in 2015. So we'd stay above them by 3%, but not 6-7% as some have mentioned.

 

Good advice. Ultimately, it will come down to a BOD vote and majority rules. With no further movement by Parker, I'm at peace with arbitration. I've looked at the MOU rates and we won't be a Delta, but AA won't be a Delta product either. Yes, APA and AA pilots screwed up giving the keys to AA to someone who clearly won't change the culture and thus will never turn it around. In that the APA must be embarrassed and that Im sure is one of their internal conundrums (including giving up profit-sharing for a measly 26 million). But these profits won't last.....in this cyclical business, they never do. In the bad times, I hope Parker remembers what has happened now, because it's a sure bet the employees will. It will be interesting to see how Parker deals with future bad times without the goodwill of front-line employees. That's what a Delta is getting right now that isn't so obvious..........flexibility, cooperation and goodwill in the future when it's really needed.

 

eaglefly,
I generally agree with most of what you are saying. All good stuff and I"m trying to think of the other side of the coin if we do go into arb.

As much as I would like to believe what you say about RJ's being staffed we are always just one FAA rule change away from the landscape being dramatically changed. I have no issue with scope..lets just keep it inline with our other legacy competitors. I do agree I feel it was a Red Herring and it did a great job of keeping the pilot group focused on it while we get slighted with all the other bad parts of the offer. Were you in favor of giving them the 81 seat limit? I can't remember if you mentioned this previously.

Overall it does seem like the company is still actively negotiating and trying to do their road show to get a gauge on what we will and will not take as a group. I'm glad to see that we are somewhat effective as they both mentioned in the DFW crew news that they received emails and also heard us on the scope issue. Unity is is our biggest leverage during all of this.

Hopefully our NC takes the time to be persistent and get us what we all deserve.

 

Schnurman: Union trouble at American Airlines? Say it ain?t so | Dallas Morning News

Check this article out. He makes it sound like pilots are greedy. However, he does make a good point that if we don't take the last, best offer, we will lose royally in arbitration. I don't want to make the same mistake the FA's did.

 

What particular FAA rule change do you think will change the "landscape" ?

 

I would expect nothing different from Schnurman. In fact, I'm surprised it took him so long to concoct another one of his hideously biased hatchet pieces. This clown is a well known anti-union hack and rarely misses an opportunity to attack AA's unions. He's a "commentator" who writes a "column" and thus truth, accuracy, neutrality and objectivity aren't required of him like they would real reporters writing news stories. He has a pulpit, that's all.

 

The continued lobbying of airlines to change the ATP requirements etc. That alone changes their "shortage".

 

Delta's retirement contribution is 15 percent. There is no match. It's simple now.

 

Thanks....