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#8541
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: B767
Posts: 1,901
That was the weird part... I have a version that saves, yet that still happened. Typically if you just have the free reader version, it won't allow saving.
#8543
On Reserve
Joined APC: Feb 2014
Position: RJ Captain
Posts: 21
Here's some info about about days off . For the guys and gals that that have been interested enough to read this entire thread, you'll have been told many times to plan on being away from home for 17 days. There's much more to it than that. As a junior ANC based 747 FO, you can plan on giving up 2 days off for travel ( 3 if you live on the East coast)every time you have to travel to and from ANC. If you can hold a 30 day line, you will probably have at least 2 seperate pairings in that month. Your going to be traveling on 4 to 6 of your 13 to 14 days off per month. The company buys you a ticket for this travel, but you don't get paid for these days. It's even more likely that you'll get stuck with a 60 day line that has 4 to 5 pairings. Then you'll be traveling on 10 to 15 days off over those 2 months. I've been at Atlas for over a year and still based in ANC. I prefer to go out and do my 17 days in one shot and then go home. I'm in the middle of the base seniority and still can't do it on a regular basis. There just aren't enough lines that are built that way.
#8544
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 35
FLYINGE,
Your example is correct. But if you live on the East coast, you will probably have to leave on the 30th to be in position with the required rest to operate on the 1st. All depends on what time that trip leaves on the first. What I'm trying point out is that as a junior crewmember, you will most likely not be able to hold a line that is one continuous 17 days. There just aren't that many built that way. You will only be able to hold lines that will require you to travel to and from ANC two to three times per month. This has been my experience.
Your example is correct. But if you live on the East coast, you will probably have to leave on the 30th to be in position with the required rest to operate on the 1st. All depends on what time that trip leaves on the first. What I'm trying point out is that as a junior crewmember, you will most likely not be able to hold a line that is one continuous 17 days. There just aren't that many built that way. You will only be able to hold lines that will require you to travel to and from ANC two to three times per month. This has been my experience.
#8545
On Reserve
Joined APC: Feb 2014
Position: RJ Captain
Posts: 21
FLYINGE,
Your example is correct. But if you live on the East coast, you will probably have to leave on the 30th to be in position with the required rest to operate on the 1st. All depends on what time that trip leaves on the first. What I'm trying point out is that as a junior crewmember, you will most likely not be able to hold a line that is one continuous 17 days. There just aren't that many built that way. You will only be able to hold lines that will require you to travel to and from ANC two to three times per month. This has been my experience.
Your example is correct. But if you live on the East coast, you will probably have to leave on the 30th to be in position with the required rest to operate on the 1st. All depends on what time that trip leaves on the first. What I'm trying point out is that as a junior crewmember, you will most likely not be able to hold a line that is one continuous 17 days. There just aren't that many built that way. You will only be able to hold lines that will require you to travel to and from ANC two to three times per month. This has been my experience.
Thank you all that has posted and showed us the reality at Altas. It is starting to look less appealing. I wanted to work at Atlas so I can work all in one shot 17 days, and do mostly 1 or 2 to legs when I work. It seems in reality it is far from that. Either you are on the 747 going back and forth to ANC, or on the 767 flying 2 to 3 legs a night. Not to mention the pay for the 767 is far less than the 747. 2nd year pay on the 767 is almost the same as 2nd year pay for Jet Blue, Virgin, Spirit, etc. considering the 62 hours guarantee and you have to factor in imputed tax. And at Atlas you are flying a heavy, at Jet Blue and the others you are not. I hope you guys will be able to get better pay and quality of life on the next contract, you definitely deserve more!
#8547
New Hire
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Posts: 6
It sounds however like 747 junior ANC based pilots are making more than min guarantee from all the days on the road. Is this correct? Also, what are the destinations mostly? I've read a lot about current 767 routes, but less of the 747.
#8548
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 35
You got it FLYINGE, the devil is in the details. I have no first hand knowledge of the 767 schedules for junior crewmembers. Its seems your understanding, so I'll add more of the 'details'. There's a 60 day line with 4 seperate pairings that some junior crewmember got stuck with this month. Get a Calender and mark this down. One pairing starts early morningin ANC on 6/22. From the east coast I would have to leave home on the 20th. That trip ends on the 3rd, so I would be home by noon on the 4th. The next trip leaves ANC at 0055 local time on the 9th. I would probably still have to leave on a late flight on the 7th to get there.that trip returns to ANC on the 15th so I could probably be home by noon on the 17th. The 4th through the 8th are marked on your schedule as days off. If you followed along on a Calender you would see that during the period from June 20 through July 17, a 28 day period, you would only have 2 full days off. And only 4 days that your family has seen you.
#8549
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 35
If you count travel days as work days, as I do. For this particular line, June shakes out to 20 on 10 off and July 22 and 9. They pay 75 and 76 hours. A 16 day straight line and 3 days of travel will pay 77 hours and you'll still have 11 days off in a row. But new hires cannot plan to hold those lines. And most are quite upset when that 28 day period that I explained above shows its ugly face.
#8550
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2013
Position: Chief Pilot
Posts: 47
You got it FLYINGE, the devil is in the details. I have no first hand knowledge of the 767 schedules for junior crewmembers. Its seems your understanding, so I'll add more of the 'details'. There's a 60 day line with 4 seperate pairings that some junior crewmember got stuck with this month. Get a Calender and mark this down. One pairing starts early morningin ANC on 6/22. From the east coast I would have to leave home on the 20th. That trip ends on the 3rd, so I would be home by noon on the 4th. The next trip leaves ANC at 0055 local time on the 9th. I would probably still have to leave on a late flight on the 7th to get there.that trip returns to ANC on the 15th so I could probably be home by noon on the 17th. The 4th through the 8th are marked on your schedule as days off. If you followed along on a Calender you would see that during the period from June 20 through July 17, a 28 day period, you would only have 2 full days off. And only 4 days that your family has seen you.
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