Atlas Air Hiring
I know there's a fair amount of negative talk in this thread, and I know I've complained about things we need to have fixed, as well.
But, you're right: This is actually a pretty dang good job. I still get annoyed at those who call this a bottomfeeder airline (yes, they're out there), simply because I can tell immediately that they lack perspective. I made more my second year at Atlas as a 767 FO than I would have if I were a 5th year 767 CA at my previous ACMI carrier. Yes, we lag behind the legacies, but we're still on a 2011 contract; give us time. As far as other ACMI carriers are concerned, we are lightyears better, and I would know; I used to work for an actual scumbag, bottomfeeder ACMI outfit. I used to want to quit after every single trip, but it's not like that at Atlas at all.
The company is indeed lobbing grenades at us over certain areas of our CBA. The December vacancy award was a big one, but it was remedied quickly. Our loss of the breakfast grievance is another example of how the company is "pressing to test" certain sections of our CBA, and we can expect that type of thing to happen more as negotiations begin. But, if anyone thinks this sort of thing doesn't happen at Delta, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
My real rambling, totally jetlagged point of this post is to point out that if someone is a complete miserable bastard at Atlas, there's a good chance he'll be a complete miserable bastard at Delta, too. People expecting happiness to come from a job will always be disappointed.
Me? I feel I make decent money here. $91k my second year on the 767, actually ($101k if you count per diem). It's not Delta 767 money, but patience is key; we'll get 'em in 2016. I spend my big chunks of days off surfing, growing a beard, and forgetting how to fly. I go to work and don't hate it. The annoyances on the road are generally minor. We're not getting suspended for 30 days for missing an R1 callout, either (yes, that happened at my previous ACMI). I live where I want. Life is generally not bad. As with anything else, it is what you make it.
But, you're right: This is actually a pretty dang good job. I still get annoyed at those who call this a bottomfeeder airline (yes, they're out there), simply because I can tell immediately that they lack perspective. I made more my second year at Atlas as a 767 FO than I would have if I were a 5th year 767 CA at my previous ACMI carrier. Yes, we lag behind the legacies, but we're still on a 2011 contract; give us time. As far as other ACMI carriers are concerned, we are lightyears better, and I would know; I used to work for an actual scumbag, bottomfeeder ACMI outfit. I used to want to quit after every single trip, but it's not like that at Atlas at all.
The company is indeed lobbing grenades at us over certain areas of our CBA. The December vacancy award was a big one, but it was remedied quickly. Our loss of the breakfast grievance is another example of how the company is "pressing to test" certain sections of our CBA, and we can expect that type of thing to happen more as negotiations begin. But, if anyone thinks this sort of thing doesn't happen at Delta, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
My real rambling, totally jetlagged point of this post is to point out that if someone is a complete miserable bastard at Atlas, there's a good chance he'll be a complete miserable bastard at Delta, too. People expecting happiness to come from a job will always be disappointed.
Me? I feel I make decent money here. $91k my second year on the 767, actually ($101k if you count per diem). It's not Delta 767 money, but patience is key; we'll get 'em in 2016. I spend my big chunks of days off surfing, growing a beard, and forgetting how to fly. I go to work and don't hate it. The annoyances on the road are generally minor. We're not getting suspended for 30 days for missing an R1 callout, either (yes, that happened at my previous ACMI). I live where I want. Life is generally not bad. As with anything else, it is what you make it.
But be careful, you're gonna get labeled by some on this thread as one who drinks the company Kool-Aid (I know better because I know who you are, and I will vouch for you)...
The pilot shortage is here guys. This is a great time to get in. For those of you still trying to get in, keep the faith. This is the perfect storm. Oil prices are low, pilot demand is high and there are jobs...jobs...J-O-B-S......JOBS out there!!!!
I received and completed the online test in the end of DEC and haven't heard anything yet. I had been applying for at least 2 years. Hoping I can get on with Atlas, it seems like a place I would be very happy at.
If you have not heard from Atlas HR after completing the test, a polite email might be a reasonable thing to do especially since it has been more than a month.
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So I'll be in the 2-16 class! Just as an FYI for others trying to work through the process. I took the assessment in November, I think I scored in the high 80's. I interviewed in early December and have been in the pool since then. I have almost 6000hrs with time in the 75/76. I'm previous international ACMI and other 121 freight/charter. I had submitted my stuff to Atlas for at least 8 years, with never so much as a peep. It seemed like the straw that broke the camel's back was 2 friends submitting recs the same week. I got the email for the assessment the next week. Good luck!
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