Atlas Air Hiring
02-05-2015 | 09:50 AM
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So I'll be in the 2-16 class! Just as an FYI for others trying to work through the process. I took the assessment in November, I think I scored in the high 80's. I interviewed in early December and have been in the pool since then. I have almost 6000hrs with time in the 75/76. I'm previous international ACMI and other 121 freight/charter. I had submitted my stuff to Atlas for at least 8 years, with never so much as a peep. It seemed like the straw that broke the camel's back was 2 friends submitting recs the same week. I got the email for the assessment the next week. Good luck!
02-05-2015 | 12:21 PM
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This is probably a dumb question (so I probably shouldn't ask it) but why would Atlas have hiring mins at 2000 yet feel the need to create an exemption to 1500hours. It seems like a lot of new hires at Atlas have north of 4/5k hours with heavy/74/76 time, retired Air Force, instructor time, etc? I know some guys/gals get out of the military with 1500-2000 hours. I'm assuming this is why? They say a 141 degree and turbojet rating exempts you down to 1500 but they can't possibly be hiring with only those credentials... Am I missing something? Is anyone getting on with such low time and a just a type in any jet?
02-05-2015 | 01:22 PM
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The company is in full attack mode with the pilots, just apply to Delta and American and avoid all this drama.
That being said, here are some examples of "attack mode" I have experienced lately:
Scheduled for 24/7 (day off) where I didn't want to be, followed by business class airline seat and very short time in a second location before a trip. I called scheduling and asked to fly in about 12 hours to the second location, with a 24/7 in the there, instead. Scheduling said no problem and changed everything.
After a trip was postponed, the captain I was with called hotels and asked them to change my hotel to the hotel where the rest of the crew was staying...hotels made the reservation.
I called travel and asked them to fly from my Gateway on DAL on a specific flight. They booked asked if I wanted an aisle or a window seat, and booked it immediately.
Of course, things don't always go your way, and sometimes the company screws up, usually with ground transportation or hotels...they aren't perfect. For example, I was recently with a Capt and they forgot our ground transport in FRA. We got a hold of them, and they told us to just take a cab and charge it to the company credit card. We got a cab and away we went, problem solved quickly.
For many of us Atlas is a good job. With the new contract it will be better. How much? We don't know. If it is a lot better, then more guys will want to come here and will stay. If it is a little better, then less guys will want to come here and more will leave.
Good luck to you, God Bless, and namaste.
02-05-2015 | 01:26 PM
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Forgot.. the online Test for new hires:
I just flew with a mgmt pilot who works usually in MIA and is involved in hiring. They said the test is completely redone, and is now a standard ATP test. He said the old test was very difficult...he couldn't have passed it...but that the new test is very simple. He said it was changed about 2 months ago.
That was the first I've heard about that.
I just flew with a mgmt pilot who works usually in MIA and is involved in hiring. They said the test is completely redone, and is now a standard ATP test. He said the old test was very difficult...he couldn't have passed it...but that the new test is very simple. He said it was changed about 2 months ago.
That was the first I've heard about that.
02-05-2015 | 01:53 PM
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I know there's a fair amount of negative talk in this thread, and I know I've complained about things we need to have fixed, as well.
But, you're right: This is actually a pretty dang good job. I still get annoyed at those who call this a bottomfeeder airline (yes, they're out there), simply because I can tell immediately that they lack perspective. I made more my second year at Atlas as a 767 FO than I would have if I were a 5th year 767 CA at my previous ACMI carrier. Yes, we lag behind the legacies, but we're still on a 2011 contract; give us time. As far as other ACMI carriers are concerned, we are lightyears better, and I would know; I used to work for an actual scumbag, bottomfeeder ACMI outfit. I used to want to quit after every single trip, but it's not like that at Atlas at all.
The company is indeed lobbing grenades at us over certain areas of our CBA. The December vacancy award was a big one, but it was remedied quickly. Our loss of the breakfast grievance is another example of how the company is "pressing to test" certain sections of our CBA, and we can expect that type of thing to happen more as negotiations begin. But, if anyone thinks this sort of thing doesn't happen at Delta, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
My real rambling, totally jetlagged point of this post is to point out that if someone is a complete miserable bastard at Atlas, there's a good chance he'll be a complete miserable bastard at Delta, too. People expecting happiness to come from a job will always be disappointed.
Me? I feel I make decent money here. $91k my second year on the 767, actually ($101k if you count per diem). It's not Delta 767 money, but patience is key; we'll get 'em in 2016. I spend my big chunks of days off surfing, growing a beard, and forgetting how to fly. I go to work and don't hate it. The annoyances on the road are generally minor. We're not getting suspended for 30 days for missing an R1 callout, either (yes, that happened at my previous ACMI). I live where I want. Life is generally not bad. As with anything else, it is what you make it.
But, you're right: This is actually a pretty dang good job. I still get annoyed at those who call this a bottomfeeder airline (yes, they're out there), simply because I can tell immediately that they lack perspective. I made more my second year at Atlas as a 767 FO than I would have if I were a 5th year 767 CA at my previous ACMI carrier. Yes, we lag behind the legacies, but we're still on a 2011 contract; give us time. As far as other ACMI carriers are concerned, we are lightyears better, and I would know; I used to work for an actual scumbag, bottomfeeder ACMI outfit. I used to want to quit after every single trip, but it's not like that at Atlas at all.
The company is indeed lobbing grenades at us over certain areas of our CBA. The December vacancy award was a big one, but it was remedied quickly. Our loss of the breakfast grievance is another example of how the company is "pressing to test" certain sections of our CBA, and we can expect that type of thing to happen more as negotiations begin. But, if anyone thinks this sort of thing doesn't happen at Delta, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
My real rambling, totally jetlagged point of this post is to point out that if someone is a complete miserable bastard at Atlas, there's a good chance he'll be a complete miserable bastard at Delta, too. People expecting happiness to come from a job will always be disappointed.
Me? I feel I make decent money here. $91k my second year on the 767, actually ($101k if you count per diem). It's not Delta 767 money, but patience is key; we'll get 'em in 2016. I spend my big chunks of days off surfing, growing a beard, and forgetting how to fly. I go to work and don't hate it. The annoyances on the road are generally minor. We're not getting suspended for 30 days for missing an R1 callout, either (yes, that happened at my previous ACMI). I live where I want. Life is generally not bad. As with anything else, it is what you make it.
...surfed HNL, SYD obvious, SCL and ROZ uncrowded also really good but you'll need a GPS international maps.
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