Atlas Air Hiring
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I received the same email. I think the classes are 24 people but not positive. Hopefully a class in May.
Latest info any of us have heard is classes of 24 every 3 weeks. Congrats to you guys!
1. On the 747 the schedules are either 17 day lines that usually end up being 15 or 16 days or 60 day lines that consist of 3 11 or 12 day trips. They can and sometimes do extend you which pays you extra if you aren't a volunteer. To avoid extension you can use a "GDO" at the end of your pattern to get you home for something you needed to be around for. You get 3 of these that you can only use the first 9 months of the year.
2. Atlas has "Gateway" and the company buys you a ticket to your base and gets you a hotel. You may pay income tax on the ticket and hotel. For a CVG guy you'd either be home based on the 767 or you'd be ANC based on the 747. You'd have to either Gateway to ANC and risk getting taxed OR you could jumpseat from CVG to ANC on company airplanes which would be much easier for a CVG guy.
3. My guess is that you'd make $1600 times four months, then you'd make $5760 plus per diem then subtract deductions (taxes, health care, retirement...etc)... That's $80 an hour times 72 hours. Prepare for a rough year as now we make far less than any of the majors on first year pay. Also, your guarantee is only 50 hours a month after clearing OE and getting off of "Training Pay", so you'd better make sure you fly.
4. The junior Captains are 4.5 year employees out of CVG on the 767. We've hired a TON of people since then, so it could be longer for you unless the company expands. If you're just applying today we're hiring 24 people every 3 weeks. A boatload of people are leaving and going to the majors. Our contract doesn't compete with them and you'll probably want to leave too if offered.
5. CVG is a very junior base and you'd be able to hold it on the 747 in the first year unless you end up stuck in ANC behind 767 seat locks that expire. ANC and then HSV would be where you'd go prior to that. ANC is probably easiest for a CVG guy.
6. The contract at Atlas is a mess. Opening negotiations start this fall and we're hoping for much MUCH better. We deserve it. We make around 55-60% of what majors do. You'll make less than you make as an RJ captain your first year and then you might make a little more if you're on the 747. The pay raise off of first year pay on the 767 is a joke. You only get a $5 an hour pay raise. Coming here could be the best move you ever make if you hit it just right and we get a good contract plus expand. I think the safer move could be to wait for a major.
One added thing I'll throw out there... Because CVG is so junior... You'd be able to hold it and hold it well as an FO/Junior 767 Captain/Junior 747 Captain. Many of the lines start in CVG and return during the middle of your trip. Because Atlas duty days are so long you're owed "Heavy Rest" in the middle of your trip which can be something like 60 hours. I've seen trips out of CVG that I held when I was very junior that had me fly out to Asia for 5 days and then heavy rest in CVG. Then do the same thing and that was my whole month. The way the line was constructed that was a full month's worth of work and I got my 72 hours... You'd only be gone around 10-12 days holding lines like that.
Best of luck, but keep in mind that for the next 18 months (at least) you'd leave this job if offered something like DAL, AA, UA, UPS, SWA...etc.
2. Atlas has "Gateway" and the company buys you a ticket to your base and gets you a hotel. You may pay income tax on the ticket and hotel. For a CVG guy you'd either be home based on the 767 or you'd be ANC based on the 747. You'd have to either Gateway to ANC and risk getting taxed OR you could jumpseat from CVG to ANC on company airplanes which would be much easier for a CVG guy.
3. My guess is that you'd make $1600 times four months, then you'd make $5760 plus per diem then subtract deductions (taxes, health care, retirement...etc)... That's $80 an hour times 72 hours. Prepare for a rough year as now we make far less than any of the majors on first year pay. Also, your guarantee is only 50 hours a month after clearing OE and getting off of "Training Pay", so you'd better make sure you fly.
4. The junior Captains are 4.5 year employees out of CVG on the 767. We've hired a TON of people since then, so it could be longer for you unless the company expands. If you're just applying today we're hiring 24 people every 3 weeks. A boatload of people are leaving and going to the majors. Our contract doesn't compete with them and you'll probably want to leave too if offered.
5. CVG is a very junior base and you'd be able to hold it on the 747 in the first year unless you end up stuck in ANC behind 767 seat locks that expire. ANC and then HSV would be where you'd go prior to that. ANC is probably easiest for a CVG guy.
6. The contract at Atlas is a mess. Opening negotiations start this fall and we're hoping for much MUCH better. We deserve it. We make around 55-60% of what majors do. You'll make less than you make as an RJ captain your first year and then you might make a little more if you're on the 747. The pay raise off of first year pay on the 767 is a joke. You only get a $5 an hour pay raise. Coming here could be the best move you ever make if you hit it just right and we get a good contract plus expand. I think the safer move could be to wait for a major.
One added thing I'll throw out there... Because CVG is so junior... You'd be able to hold it and hold it well as an FO/Junior 767 Captain/Junior 747 Captain. Many of the lines start in CVG and return during the middle of your trip. Because Atlas duty days are so long you're owed "Heavy Rest" in the middle of your trip which can be something like 60 hours. I've seen trips out of CVG that I held when I was very junior that had me fly out to Asia for 5 days and then heavy rest in CVG. Then do the same thing and that was my whole month. The way the line was constructed that was a full month's worth of work and I got my 72 hours... You'd only be gone around 10-12 days holding lines like that.
Best of luck, but keep in mind that for the next 18 months (at least) you'd leave this job if offered something like DAL, AA, UA, UPS, SWA...etc.
Took the test on the 20th and passed with a 97.
Phone call from Atlas on the 25th for the phone interview but missed it (in the airport commuting, didn't hear it). Tried returning the call but only got the answering machine until this past Monday. I finally got through to HR and was able to get the phone interview knocked out. I felt it went well despite being a little nervous and pretty excited.
At the conclusion I found out that interviewing is done for the moment and might start again in June. I was told my resume would be held on to for the future.
Anyone else been in a similar situation with waiting for interviews to start?
Can any of the Atlas guys weigh in on if they think interviewing may pickup before June?
Overall I'm stoked at the shot to get on with Atlas, I've been chasing them for several years now.
My stats:
4100 Total 1200+ TPIC (Turbo prop)
1 Internal
Applying since 2012, 2 Job fairs
Current EMB145 FO
Previous Part 135 Cargo: Ameriflight
Phone call from Atlas on the 25th for the phone interview but missed it (in the airport commuting, didn't hear it). Tried returning the call but only got the answering machine until this past Monday. I finally got through to HR and was able to get the phone interview knocked out. I felt it went well despite being a little nervous and pretty excited.
At the conclusion I found out that interviewing is done for the moment and might start again in June. I was told my resume would be held on to for the future.
Anyone else been in a similar situation with waiting for interviews to start?
Can any of the Atlas guys weigh in on if they think interviewing may pickup before June?
Overall I'm stoked at the shot to get on with Atlas, I've been chasing them for several years now.
My stats:
4100 Total 1200+ TPIC (Turbo prop)
1 Internal
Applying since 2012, 2 Job fairs
Current EMB145 FO
Previous Part 135 Cargo: Ameriflight
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Took the test on the 20th and passed with a 97.
Phone call from Atlas on the 25th for the phone interview but missed it (in the airport commuting, didn't hear it). Tried returning the call but only got the answering machine until this past Monday. I finally got through to HR and was able to get the phone interview knocked out. I felt it went well despite being a little nervous and pretty excited.
At the conclusion I found out that interviewing is done for the moment and might start again in June. I was told my resume would be held on to for the future.
Anyone else been in a similar situation with waiting for interviews to start?
Can any of the Atlas guys weigh in on if they think interviewing may pickup before June?
Overall I'm stoked at the shot to get on with Atlas, I've been chasing them for several years now.
My stats:
4100 Total 1200+ TPIC (Turbo prop)
1 Internal
Applying since 2012, 2 Job fairs
Current EMB145 FO
Previous Part 135 Cargo: Ameriflight
Phone call from Atlas on the 25th for the phone interview but missed it (in the airport commuting, didn't hear it). Tried returning the call but only got the answering machine until this past Monday. I finally got through to HR and was able to get the phone interview knocked out. I felt it went well despite being a little nervous and pretty excited.
At the conclusion I found out that interviewing is done for the moment and might start again in June. I was told my resume would be held on to for the future.
Anyone else been in a similar situation with waiting for interviews to start?
Can any of the Atlas guys weigh in on if they think interviewing may pickup before June?
Overall I'm stoked at the shot to get on with Atlas, I've been chasing them for several years now.
My stats:
4100 Total 1200+ TPIC (Turbo prop)
1 Internal
Applying since 2012, 2 Job fairs
Current EMB145 FO
Previous Part 135 Cargo: Ameriflight
Good for them. I hope they waste hours of their precious time trying to figure out who said what (none of which is sensitive info), rather than fixing what's broken out on line.
During interviews in 2012 they were hiring > 75% of the interviewees. I think that has stayed relatively constant since then. 13 sounds like a lot of DNRs but they still hired 80%. Just a lot of candidates.
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